Who mentioned "inferior Freepers?" I'M a Freeper, for heaven's sake. Touchy, touchy!
What I meant was that most anti-gay marriage posts I've seen on these boards deal with the topic from a religious perspective. And, no, I am not anti-religious but at the same time I do not automatically give any argument credence just because the espouser of same is basing his/her argument on the interpreted beliefs of a particular religion. In a nutshell, my friend's argument against gay marriage is this:
If we (the gay community) force gay marriage on the masses, we are going to be vilified and damned like we haven't been in my (her) lifetime (she's 30). Let "mom and pop" have "marriage" - though "civil union" would be nice. Besides, we (the gay community) ARE different, we are not the mainstream or traditional in this respect - therefore, why should we want to accept the mainstream traditions of others, much less force them to accept us within their traditions? She believes anyone who claims to be gay and who believes in gay marriage is a hypocrite, and self destructive.
Now this comes not from a "flaunt it in your face, out there butch-type." Picture Reese Witherspoon morphing with Meg Ryan, and you get the idea. Further, she was press secretary to a GOP Member of Congress, volunteer coordinator for a successful GOP candidate for US Senate, and staffer to the 2000 GOP Convention. She could be your neighbor!
posted on 02/11/2004 4:23:15 PM PST
First if all I wasn't being "touchy". I was being flippant refrencing your comment on how you thought your friend was more articulate than many freepers on this forum. I meant no disrespect to you.
Your friend is likely similar in beliefs as a lot of gays. Probably outnumbering the radical gays but a whole lot quieter. The radicals are out there in our (non-gay community) faces, and public schools, striving for "rights" and screaming to be left alone at the same time. In both I think there is a strong desire to be accepted with different ideas on how to achieve acceptance.
Frankly I don't think gays are being hypocritical for wanting gay marriage legal. For some anyway. Others I'm certain are motivated for political reasons. I don't think their lifestyle makes marriage very workable, however. The problem here is not entirely about gay marriage; its that our American society is on a fast track of moral decline that has allowed sin(s)to become acceptable in our eyes. We've accepted divorce and adultry and then when gays decide they want to marry we suddenly become 'moral'? I'd like to ask where we all were when divorce was not the norm or when having a child out of wedlock was shameful?
If the word 'sin' is offense to you or anyone else then lets use the word 'immorality'. No matter what word we choose to describe this rotten, stinking decline in our society those words require a point of reference.
The Church has failed in its call to be a 'light' and 'salt' in the world. They somehow think its their job to condemn; or, equally disturbing, accept what is unacceptable in God's eyes. Referencing the immorality not the person.
As for your comment on religious 'credence', that's your perogative but it is also a Christians' perogative to hold the belief that on God's Word alone sin is sin and not to be embraced as normal. Notice I'm saying the sin is not to be accepted as normal; not the person.
posted on 02/12/2004 7:11:06 AM PST
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