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To: vooch
The problem is that there never really was a working peace to "scuttle." Serbs wanted a united Yugoslavia, then a Greater Serbia. Muslims and Croats wanted independence.

This statement has me puzzled: "Clinton spent some 5 billion on Alija Iztbegovic's un-elected regime. All the while Clinton sidelined the moderate Muslim, Fikret Abdic, who just happened to have won the Presidential election."

Isn't Abdic the tycoon/warlord near Bihac who allied himself with the Serbs and fought against the V Corps along with the BSA? I've never heard of him winning any elections. On the contrary, he was viewed by most Muslims as a traitor. Where do you get your info from?

"The locals bear much blame, but the Clinton White House bears just as much for their lavish support of the most extreme elements out there."

No, not "just as much." Not even nearly as much. If you want to talk extremists, there's plenty: Arkan, Mladic, Karadzic, the Jokers, HVO, Oric, etc. Most of whom were not sponsored by the West. They had their own agendas and persued them regardless of whether they had a stamp of approval.

The Balkan wars were fought by nationalists out to grab land, not by some suit in Washington or Berlin.
24 posted on 02/12/2004 1:19:24 PM PST by JCB
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To: JCB; joan
Abdic had been painted as a 'tycoon/warlord' by Iztbegovic and Clinton........but He was a legitmate politician in BiH.

He won the election to the Bosnian Presidency garnering many non-Muslim votes. (because he was a moderate)

In a 'mysterious' turn of events, Iztbegovic took Abdic's place. Iztebegovic tears up the Lisbon Agreement (under Zimmerman's advice) and what could have been solved without war wasn't.

Ultimately Abdic felt so strongly about Iztbegovic's destructive extremism, that he organized some 10,000 to 20,000 Soldiers to fight against Iztbegovic's xenophobia.

Of course, the fanatics in Iztbegovic's SDA over in Sarajevo did all they could to discredit Abdic. Abdic and his thousands of Muslims fighting allied with the BSA was proof positive that it was Iztbegovic who was the racist extremist.

Indeed, Clinton's White House pumped some $5 billion into Iztbegovic's regime coffers. Much of that was pumped in after 1995, the fact remains that a staggering amount of money was sent by Clinton to Iztbegovic.

My point is simply that there were moderate alternatives for Clinton's White House to support. Before Clinton's active support, the moderates were in trying to stop escalation of violence. By supporting the extremists, Clinton undermined a peaceful solution. joan has lots of data sources on Abdic and so forth

36 posted on 02/13/2004 3:03:15 AM PST by vooch
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