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To: Askel5
>>save for the part where Christ himself said: This IS my body, this IS my blood. DO THIS in memory of me.
 
Those are the words used in the Lutheran (LCMS) Communion sacrament - as per scripture:
 
Matt 26:26-29
 
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 
 
27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom." 
(from New International Version)
 
 
Next?
 
 

112 posted on 02/18/2004 10:08:41 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: VxH
Oh ... I never realized. I got the impression (seeing what happened to the leftovers after "communion") that Lutherans had a different interpretation of "is" than Catholics.

My apologies.


A lot depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Ask the homosexuals who point to the FACT that heterosexual marriages don't last, heterosexual partners fully expect to enjoy non-procreative sex unless and until they are specifically Planning a child (at which point they can avail themselves of artificial reproduction, just like homos do), and heteros often end up with kids they don't want and don't care for ... unlike homosexuals who go to great lengths to procure and/or manufacture the children they want.

It's not so much that they want the public recognition of their union ... homosexuals have been getting "married" for years and -- like heterosexuals -- the bigger the hoo-hah over having and exeucting a wedding, the less likely it is to last.

They just want the "get out of legal fees free" card that is the marriage certificate where settling property and parenting issues and trumping the claims of Family members.

And who can blame them? That's about all marriage is these days in the hetero realm. A lifestyle choice and a remarkably unsuccessful one at that.

Why? Because -- like homos -- heteros have seated the union strictly between the two spouses instead of recognizing that marriage is the covenant on which Family is based.

It's Family that is the basic unit of society and the prime human condition. Having made children an option -- at best -- of conjugual union, heteros have no business pretending they've some exclusive claim to marriage given the Family Planning mindset.

137 posted on 02/19/2004 7:50:41 AM PST by Askel5
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