The 3rd terrorist: Mideast tie to OKC bombing

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The 3rd terrorist: Mideast tie to OKC bombing

Investigative reporter provides convincing evidence of Islamic plot

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Posted: February 12, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not the lone conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq, according to a new release by WND Books.

Backed by stunning evidence, author Jayna Davis explains in detail the complete, and so far untold, story behind the failed investigation in The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing."

The investigative reporter who first broke the story of the Middle East connection, Davis shows why the FBI closed the door, what further evidence exists to prove the Iraqi connection, why it has been ignored and what makes it more relevant now than ever.

Told with a gripping narrative style and vetted by men such as former CIA director James Woolsey, Davis's piercing account is the first book to set the record straight about what really happened in the bombing that killed nearly 170 people in a few short seconds April 19, 1995.

Last April, Davis' reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing was vindicated when the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a lawsuit filed against her after finding "defendants did not recklessly disregard the truth" in reporting on an Iraqi soldier's alleged involvement in the bombing.

"After eight years of oppressive litigation, the courts have vindicated my work ethic as a dedicated journalist," Davis told WorldNetDaily at the time. "The lawsuit was obviously designed to silence a legitimate investigation into Middle Eastern complicity in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing."

In an interview with WND in October 2001, attorney David Schippers, who prosecuted the House of Representatives' impeachment case against Bill Clinton, said his examination of the evidence Davis presented him was conclusive.

"I am thoroughly convinced that there was a dead-bang Middle Eastern connection in the Oklahoma City bombing," he said.

Read WorldNetDaily's extensive coverage of the Oklahoma City bombing case.

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It's just an announcement for a new book, but this subject needs to be brought up as much as possible. There's too much dirt here to be ignored.

I will never understand why the entire government is ignoring this story. Davis has some extremely compelling information, and if there's nothing to it, the FBI should at least tell us why. This is justification for Saddam's overthrow right here, never mind the WMD or the tyranny.

[risk]

We can't convict common criminals with eye-witnesses to their crimes in our courts, so why did the Clintons think we could manage terrorism as a law-enforcement problem?

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For more info, try this-- Jaynadavis.com

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so why did the Clintons think we could manage terrorism as a law-enforcement problem?

Same reason Kerry thinks so. Doh!!

[Jacquerie]

Bent Willie had no intention of possibly upsetting Arab-Americans. Besides, the day after OKC his hacks and NPR and the rest of the media blamed right wingers, especially talk radio. Why search for the truth when lies serve the purpose?

[American_Centurion]

See tagline.

I lifted it from a story by Nicole Gelinas.

[American_Centurion]

Sorry my #6 should be addressed to you.

see my tagline

[martin_fierro]

[ZULU]

"I will never understand why the entire government is ignoring this story."

We KNOW why Clinton ignored it. He used OklahomaCitry to whip up a national frenzy against "militia groups" and other angry white males with guns.

As for Bush, he should welcome this as another connection to Saddam.

[contessa machiaveli]

that is a very scary resemblance.
terry nichols holds the key, is there any way to "encourage" him to talk?

[captbarney]

if the freepers begin a letter writing campaign to Terry Nichols with the thought that he can REALLY DO DAMAGE to the Gov't by showing an Iraqi connection, he might consider the thought

[wayoverontheright]

As for Bush, he should welcome this as another connection to Saddam.

Yes, quite possibly the committee assigned to investigate our pre-9-11 intelligence will delve into this. Bush had to wait until the Democrats clamored for it, and they have now waded into his trap.

Key question the committee would have to deal with is "why did the intelligence community ignore the middle eastern link to OK City, and WHO ordered it to be ignored?"

Strategery.

[risk]

I agree, I agree. Some people just don't get it. They wouldn't mind being stuck inside a perpetual 1970s TV broadcast, day complete with Iranian hostage crisis reports and oil embargo news. The rest of us are moving onward, not looking back except to say "Never again. Never forget. Never forgive."

We're tilling salt into the soil, one terrorist Carthage at a time.

[RinaseaofDs]

Clinton's 'Put some ice on it' strategy for handling the middle east.

The guy used AF1 like it was a Winnebago, and pretty much let everything else ride.

[knarf]

Watch out Annie ... I've found a new love.

[truthandlife]

BUMP

[knarf]

"if the freepers begin a letter writing campaign to Terry Nichols with the thought that he can REALLY DO DAMAGE to the Gov't by showing an Iraqi connection, he might consider the thought"

I can't remember the exact time, but ... wasn't T. McVeigh the fastest Fed execution on record?

And another thing ... has anyone ever heard McVeigh's voice?

I remember a half dozen or so film clips of him being shown, mostly after being 'captured', but I never heard a sound bite.

Anyone else?

[Rander7]

I've always thought these two guys were one and the same!

[Deguello]

"but I never heard a sound bite"

Pre-execution interview with 60 Minutes. Part of this interview was shown on same show two weeks ago.

[Swiss]

Good find, not a mention of revenge for Waco which we was lead to believe was the reason for OK City Bombing.

[justshutupandtakeit]

This sounds like it was written by Saddam's Propaganda Ministry. So, in other words, this was done for Saddam's benefit there is nothing in it about any kind of "Right wing" concerns. No mention of Waco or the Dravidian slaughter or being directed at the fedgov for ANY reason other than its war with Saddam.

That alone means Iraq had a hand in it.

[petercooper]

I'm gonna get this book.

[Jeff Gannon]

Two years ago, Arlen Specter was confronted in his Capitol Hill office on live radio by Michael Smirconish (1210 AM Philadelphia) and Jayne Davis about this. Specter promised to look into her claims, but still nothing....

I followed up last year, but got no response from anyone on Specter's staff.

[SierraWasp]

"acts morally equivilent"

Iraqi agents "turned" McVeigh who was shaken by the "Highway of Death" pictures. He came to see his own nation as a "Bully!" Once disallusioned, he really went off the "deep end" when he saw Waco!!!

This is really NOT hard to understand when you understand that the enemies of America ALWAYS use their most powerful weapon (moral equivalance) to make the greatest nation ever to exist, look somehow hipocritical!!!

Weak minded younger individuals fall for this in their search for "fairness" and "justice!" They are indoctrinated with this "sense of fairplay" from kindergarten to military service and then scenes of combat just "blows their minds" in some cases and "turns them off" toward their own country.

Just like John F'n Kerry!!!

[happygrl]

It also reads like something written by Noam Chomskey, writer of leftist bilge. Doesn't read like militia "right wing" stuff at all.

Seems like McVey was "turned", but by whom ? A connection of the treasonous Left with Saddam ?

They were certainly his supporter via protest organizations like A.N.S.W.E.R.

How clever of the Left to divert responsibilty to the Crazy Right-Wingers.

I think that Saddam and his infiltrated Iraqis had a finger in this, but the takeover of MccVey's political outlook bears the mark of leftist ideology.

[rake]

whoa!

thanks for posting that. pretty stunning that he talks about nothing but Iraq.

[FreeAtlanta]

lol, you know he made a point of visiting every single state before his term was up. What's with that? Nice vacation, I just wish he had done some work.

[Issaquahking]

Wasp,

Your sting is exactly correct as per usual! Those that are jealous of us to the extreme are not totally stupid - they seek stupid (aka useful idiots) out to do their dirty work out for them. Useful idiots are just like the frog in the pot being heated - they only "get it" when it's too late....currently the battle has been overseas for the most part, I have to wonder when the peaceniks and far left goofballs are going to get it? Most likely when the terrorists do smack us again in the homeland, they will relize that it is their fault for preventing what needs to be done to defend the homeland. One has to maintain vigilance at all times, on all fronts - just like our forefathers tried to warn us about in the Declaration of Independence and in writing the Constitution!

If there is any doubt to useful idiots and the extent that they will go to - remember that -

A vote for John 'F'ing Kerry is a vote for UBL, the U.N. etc.,etc...

[Kleon]

This is justification for Saddam's overthrow right here, never mind the WMD or the tyranny.

Let me get this straight, because this phantom bomber was a former member of the Iraqi army, that alone justifies overthowing Saddam? What army was McVeigh in? Maybe we should topple them too.

[Issaquahking]

ping

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What army was McVeigh in?An excellent question! Why don't you read post #19 for the answer?

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I guess I'll be the first to mention the name 'Scott Ritter' on this thread.

[happygrl]

From this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076594/posts

When linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds showed up for her first day of work at the FBI, a week after the 9-11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications.

She knew the dessert is customarily served in the Middle East at weddings, births and other celebrations, and asked what the happy occasion was. To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered:

"It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."

She found out later that it was her supervisor's wife who helped organize the office party there at the bureau's Washington field office, just four blocks from the J. Edgar Hoover Building.

"This guy's wife brought the date-filled cookies for the celebration," Edmonds, 33, recalled.

At the time, the supervisor, Mike Feghali, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Beirut, was in charge of the FBI's Turkish and Farsi desks.

But he's been promoted since then, and now also runs the all-important Arabic desk, which is key to intercepting the next al-Qaida plot.

It gets worse.

The language service squad is the front line in the FBI's war on terrorism, collecting all foreign language tips, information and terrorist threats to homeland security. Agents act on what the squad translates and reports. The sooner they get the information, the sooner they can thwart terrorist attacks. Investigators had missed clues to both the 2001 and 1993 World Trade Center attacks because they were buried in a backlog of untranslated wiretaps and documents in Arabic.

Despite the backlog, Feghali told Edmonds and other translators to just let the work pile higher, according to Edmonds. Why? Money. She says Feghali, who has recruited family and friends to work with him at the high-paying language unit, argued that Congress would approve an even bigger budget for it if they could continue to show big backlogs.

"We were told to take long breaks, to slow down translations, and to simply say 'no' to those field agents calling us to beg for speedy translations so that they could go on with their investigations and interrogations of those they had detained," said Edmonds, who was fired without specified cause by the FBI after she reported breaches in security, mistranslations and potential espionage by Middle Eastern colleagues.

She claims Feghali actually tampered with her work to slow her down.

"My supervisor went as far as getting into my work computer and deleting almost completed work so that I had to go back and start all over again," she said.

Edmonds, a Turkish-American who is not a practicing Muslim, made the allegations last month in a 9-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

She also claims that Feghali threatened to sue the bureau for racial discrimination, but dropped the suit once the bureau promoted him, says Edmonds and other sources. The FBI, which like the army suffers from a severe shortage of Arabic translators, instated a bureau-wide Muslim-sensitivity training program after 9-11.

Reached by phone at his Maryland home, Feghali was brusque and refused to talk about the allegations.

"I'm not at liberty to discuss this thing, OK?" he said before abruptly hanging up.

The spokesperson for the FBI's Washington field office, Debbie Weierman, did not return repeated phone calls.

Feghali, who holds several foreign language degrees, has been an FBI language specialist for several years. He was a key translator in the government's case against al-Qaida operatives charged in the U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya, and even testified in court.

Sources say he is planning to move back to Lebanon.

A key player in the 9-11 plot and the likely pilot of United Airlines Flight 93, the suicide plane that crashed apparently en route to the U.S. Capitol, was Ziad Samir Jarrah, a Lebanese.

Edmonds has also complained about Feghali and other Middle Eastern translators to the Justice Department inspector general.

And on Wednesday, she is scheduled to give a detailed briefing to members of the 9-11 commission in a secure room here.

She claims terrorist "investigations are being compromised," and has demanded an independent probe of the FBI's language department.

"If there were, and are, persons within the language department that either intentionally prevented translation because of their agendas, or persons who were, and are, not qualified to properly translate, it is likely that terrorist communications prior to 9-11 were missed; and it is likely that current and future terrorist communications will likewise be missed," Edmonds wrote Justice's Inspector General Glenn A. Fine in a Jan. 5 letter. "I have alleged, and the FBI has confirmed (to Senate investigators), that there are in fact such persons in the language department."

Fine still has not released the findings of his internal probe, even though Edmonds first filed her complaint with his office almost two years ago. Speaking for Fine, Justice official Carol Ochoa said the investigation is "still ongoing."

"We are working hard to complete it expeditiously," she said in a Jan. 6 letter to Edmonds.

[Issaquahking]

Scott Bitter? wait till some of the _others start coming up on the screen...

You can borrow my koran, it really works! It's taken so much $hit that I've became there leading salesman!

/sarcasm>

[SierraWasp]

Hey! Where'd this come from? The URL you provided is the URL for this thread, right here!!!

You just sent me on a circular "Wild Goose Chase" that didn't tell me a thing, except that I'm an idiot for simply not looking up at the address I was already at!!! (grin)

Come back here and give me a legitimate URL because I wanna know where this story came from. It's intensely interesting!!!

I sure hope Tom Ridge and the heads of FBI and CIA are aware of this bureaucratic threat to national security if it's true!!!

[SierraWasp]

"...but the takeover of MccVey's political outlook bears the mark of leftist ideology."

Probably yes, but maybe not. I've encountered many on both ends of the spectrum that have "gone around the bend" so far that they run into themselves coming around the other end!!!

The politics of envy, resentment, fairness and moral superiority are the most dangerous when they come in contact with any unstable or traumatized individual that feels ostracized from society and lonely. Even terrorists understand this and prey on such individuals to provide the perfect, untraceable cover!!!

[happygrl]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1075802/posts

Please accept my humble apologies.

I confuse myself sometimes.

[SierraWasp]

I just heard a report on ABC radio national news at top of the hour, that THEY'RE REOPENING THE FBI's INVESTIGATION to determine if more than McVey and Nichols were involved!!!

[SierraWasp]

A resurrection PING!!! (sounds like maybe)

[SierraWasp]

Ping!!!

[cmsgop]

For Later Reading

[_Jim]

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not the lone conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists

Funny, no evidence, just conspiracy-class stories, innuendo, and lots of 'links' that, well, only 'link' vaporously 'different' far-flung suspects together ...

'Linking' is not proof.

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I certainly hope you're right. The people of OKC deserve it, and the Bush admin could use it as *even more* justification for the Iraq invasion.

[Vigilantcitizen]

Bttt.

[shan]

You wrote:

"We KNOW why Clinton ignored it. He used OklahomaCitry to whip up a national frenzy against "militia groups" and other angry white males with guns."

OK you were right, now ask youeself why Bush (& CO.) continue to hise the truth?

While you're asking yourself questions about the so called "consevative" republicans how about gun control?

What the NRA calls the "Clinton assault weapons ban" may as well be called the Bush assault-weapons ban...the man is on record as saying he FAVORS extending the ban.

And the NRA....when is the last time they called a jack-booted thug a jack-booted thug?

[ZULU]

"And the NRA....when is the last time they called a jack-booted thug a jack-booted thug?"

Wayne LaPierre did that some time ago and Bush I jumped all over him, among many, many others.

"OK you were right, now ask youeself why Bush (& CO.) continue to hise the truth?"

Perhaps they are otherwise occupied. Perhaps they are merely covering up for the prior Administration - a regrettable fault in Republicans not equally reciprocated by the Dems. They did the same thing with a number of other issues - like the Dems trashing the White House. Wait for the book by J. Davis. That might shake something loose.

"What the NRA calls the "Clinton assault weapons ban" may as well be called the Bush assault-weapons ban...the man is on record as saying he FAVORS extending the ban."

Bush wants to get elected. Saying he will sign it doesn't mean it will get to his desk. If he has any sense and any power over his party in Congress, and, apparently he has, it will never reach that point. Dems tried tacking it onto the lawsuit protection bill and he categorically said he would not sign a bill on that subject with any riders - score one for Bush.

Now the Dems are reintroducing a NEW assault rifle bill, more restrictive than the old one. Bush won't sign that - its a new bill. Score another for Bush.

Look. Bush isn't perfect, but he's far better than Kerry.
Kerry attacked the NRA's right to run their own television station! The Republican Party is a poor alternative to the Democrats, but its the only horse we have to run. Also, Kerry would be naming MORE anti-gun, left-wing justices to the federal courts. Don't forget - Bush is a REAL moderate, not a true conservative. But then again, he's not a phoney "moderate" (read "liberal").

If you are a conservative pro-gun guy, JOIN the Republican Party and try to make to better (more conservative). I have. Its our only alternative. Third parties are dead right now.

[MrB]

Dead ringer.

Now, why would our gov't cover this up as well as covering up TWA 800?

I think it was a mistake on their part that Padilla showed up again. Too easy to make the connection.