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To: The Raven
Evolution has and always will be fatally flawed. It's premise is ALWAYS that there is NO God and order arbitrarily came out of chaos. A sheer impossibility from the standpoint of anyone with a working brain who choses to use it objectively.

It's actually humorous ... evolution defies the very laws they worship.
157 posted on 02/13/2004 3:12:05 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: longshadow
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158 posted on 02/13/2004 3:20:21 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: nmh
Evolution has and always will be fatally flawed. It's premise is ALWAYS that there is NO God and order arbitrarily came out of chaos. A sheer impossibility from the standpoint of anyone with a working brain who choses to use it objectively.

So, objectively speaking, is there one angel in charge of constructing each snowflake, or one angel who constructs all snowflakes, or something in between? And do/does this/these angel(s) also work on the mineral crystals, or is that a different department?

160 posted on 02/13/2004 3:30:03 PM PST by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: nmh
Evolution has and always will be fatally flawed. It's premise is ALWAYS that there is NO God and order arbitrarily came out of chaos.

Evolution says nothing regarding the existence of gods or regarding "order from chaos". Your misstatement indicates that understanding of evolution is clearly flawed, thus nothing that you say on the matter can be trusted.
166 posted on 02/13/2004 4:28:07 PM PST by Dimensio (I gave you LIFE! I -- AAAAAAAAH!)
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To: nmh
It's premise is ALWAYS that there is NO God and order arbitrarily came out of chaos. A sheer impossibility from the standpoint of anyone with a working brain who choses to use it objectively. It's actually humorous ... evolution defies the very laws they worship.

Your assumption and your prejudice. There is no arbitrary sense once we fully understand the principles and the mechanism. But that is science - the use of intelligence to understand, no matter how daunting or improbable the task.

Faith requires the setting aside of mind and relying entirely upon belief, the poetic heart. This is not always a bad thing, in and of itself. Faith allows a man to love his wife and believe that she will be there for him - even though his intelligence is baffled that she's with him in the first place. :-)

BTW - scientists, and those who have a scientific view, do not worship the theories of evolution. It's anathemic to a scientific method. Instead, observation, experimentation, and deduction are used. Not faith and worship. Worship is a slander used by those too prejudiced to consider a view other than their own. In essence, 'my faith states that they are wrong therefor they worship a false god.'

Evolution as a scientific theory explains how a facet of the universe functions. Organisms develop and change as they interact with their environment. How that threatens a particular brand of religion has always baffled me as have the constant stream of attacks.

270 posted on 02/14/2004 9:25:51 AM PST by Ophiucus
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