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To: green nexus
I see your point about entrapment.

However in this instance, I don't mind even if it is.
My reasoning is that if he was susceptible to manipulation by US Government agents, he would obviously be vulnerable to manipulation by Islamoterrorists. Better we find out this way.

Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it.

He was traitor scum at heart, not an "All American Boy".

21 posted on 02/13/2004 4:51:30 PM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Jotmo
Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it.

Allow me to put a qualifier in there.

Not without some serious brainwashing, anyway. But simple prompting won't do it.

22 posted on 02/13/2004 4:55:30 PM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Jotmo
My reasoning is that if he was susceptible to manipulation by US Government agents, he would obviously be vulnerable to manipulation by Islamoterrorists. Better we find out this way. Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it. He was traitor scum at heart, not an "All American Boy".

Very good points all. This case makes me wonder about the stability, or "manipulability," of the majority of America's young men in general.

You may have seen other threads on this incident where someone posted some of the Usenet posts this Guardsman made. He referred to his "Arabic History" class in college and the like. Given the systematically left-wing (or at least nihilist) direction of America's educational system, which this kid is a product of, I wonder how many more of these incidents we'll be hearing about in the future.

25 posted on 02/13/2004 6:30:20 PM PST by green nexus
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