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Meet the Press [THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN]
New York Times ^ | Feb 15, 2004 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 02/15/2004 3:15:26 AM PST by The Raven

he situation in Iraq is fast approaching the tipping point. The terrorists know that if they can wreak enough havoc, kill enough Iraqis waiting in line to join their own police force, they can prevent the U.N. from coming up with a plan for elections and a stable transfer of U.S. authority to an Iraqi government. Once authority is in Iraqi hands, the Baathists and Islamists have a real problem: They can't even pretend to be fighting the U.S. anymore. It will be clear to all Arabs and Muslims that they are fighting against the freedom and independence of Iraq and for their own lunatic ideologies. Which is why they are desperate to prevent us from reaching that tipping point. Their strategy is to sow chaos, defeat President Bush and hope that his Democratic successor will pull out. Which is also why at this moment the most important statement on Iraq that can be made — one that could even save lives — is nothing President Bush could say. No, the most important statement on Iraq right now could only come from the likely Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry.

Imagine that Tim Russert followed his excellent interview with President Bush with an interview today with Mr. Kerry. Here's what I hope it would sound like. Mr. Russert: "Senator Kerry, you essentially voted in favor of the war, but argued that the way the Bush team carried it out was deeply flawed. Well, now we're there. Tell the American people how you would deal with Iraq going forward."

Senator Kerry: "Tim, before I answer that question, I first want to direct a message to the die-hard Baathists and Islamo-fascists who've been slaughtering Iraqis struggling to build their first democratic government. And my message to these terrorists is this: `READ MY LIPS — if I am president, I will not cut and run. I will not pull our troops out in the face of your intimidation the way Ronald Reagan fled from Lebanon.' Because that panicky retreat from Beirut in 1984 started us down this whole path, where terrorists believed if they hit us hard enough, we would run and they would get away with it. I hate how George Bush has prosecuted this war. I know I could do better. But I want every suicide bomber — from Bali to Baghdad — to understand one thing about a Kerry administration: `You can blow yourselves up from now until next Ramadan, but we'll still be in Iraq. You'll be dead, but we'll still be there. Which part of that sentence don't you understand?'

"I don't say this to be macho-man, Tim. I'm not George Bush. I say this because it's the best way to save American and Iraqi lives. You see, Tim, I identify so strongly with my band of brothers and sisters wearing the American uniform in Iraq. The best way to endanger them is to suggest to the terrorists that there is daylight between me and President Bush — that if he won't run, I will. Well, there is no daylight on ends. A Kerry administration will see that Iraqis get every chance to produce their own representative government.

"But there is daylight on means. You see, Tim, if I were president, I would insist that we have a real policy of energy conservation to enlist every American in this war, by asking each of us to choke off some of the funds going to the Islamist totalitarians. I would immediately invite the leaders of the U.N., Germany, France and NATO to Camp David to rebuild the alliance that won the cold war, so we have the staying power to win this war of ideas in the Muslim world. And I would have my secretary of state out in the Middle East regularly, arguing our case, bolstering our allies and trying to bring about a secure peace for Israelis and Palestinians.

"Oh yes, Tim, my means would be very different. Unlike the Bush team, I understand that just because you have a hammer, not every problem is a nail. It takes more than force to win a war of ideas. But on ends, Tim, let no one have any illusions: a Kerry presidency will pay any price and bear any burden to try to build a decent Iraqi regime in the heart of the Arab world. My making that commitment now is the best way to prove to the terrorists that their actions are futile, and in that way save American and Iraqi lives. Failure to make that commitment would have horrific consequences for U.S. foreign policy.

"Tim, I am no dreamer. I've seen a quagmire close up. We can't want a unified, decent Iraq more than the Iraqis themselves. Ultimately, they will have to step up and come together around a plan and a leader. But the terrorists should have no illusions, and the Iraqi people should have no fears: America under John Kerry will give them every chance to succeed. We will not run."


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KEYWORDS: iraq; strategy; thomaslfriedman; war
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For an opposing point of view...see the Zarqawi letter.

[Coalition officials discovered a letter believed to have been written by terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi]

1 posted on 02/15/2004 3:15:26 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Thomas L. Friedman gets paid to write this nonsense?
2 posted on 02/15/2004 3:24:50 AM PST by PGalt
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To: The Raven
Reading Thomas Friedman as I have for these past few years, I've always been undecided about him - one day he strikes a vote for freedom; the next he sullies his boots in leftist drivel...

This article resolves what (at least in my opinion...) has been Friedman's dichotomy... he wishes (read: utopian fantasy) that a leftist like Kerry would grow some stones and put America first above all else.

As others have put it; when pigs fly...

Juan
3 posted on 02/15/2004 3:28:37 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe him courage in return)
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To: CGVet58
Friedman is a hyper-emotional, new age, State Department wannabe.

In his world, if we all hold hands and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony", then everybody will kiss and make up.

To be honest, I've reached the point that if I ever met this guy, I'd punch the sissy boy in the mouth.

4 posted on 02/15/2004 3:34:36 AM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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To: The Raven
Kerry to Friedman: "Thanks Dad!"
5 posted on 02/15/2004 3:34:41 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: The Raven
Here's a more concise policy statement for Kerry to review:

"Our war on terror is a contest of wills in which perseverance - is power"

--GWB

6 posted on 02/15/2004 3:47:06 AM PST by hedgie
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To: CGVet58
You have captured my feelings exactly.

What is truly scary about this article is the notion that we are responsible for the transactlantic "crisis." It is France that sows this "disunion," and she has been doing so not 50 years.

7 posted on 02/15/2004 3:48:45 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: The Raven
pay any price and bear any burden
Ah, yes--the famous line from JFK's speech . . . which is exactly what the early career of our would-be "new JFK" was aimed against. I read as an indictment of Kerry the fact that he has not yet--nor likely ever to have--done this.

The truth is that if you want the second coming of JFK you need look no further than George W. Bush. The JFK of the 1960s could not be nominated by the Democratic Party, any time after 1972.


8 posted on 02/15/2004 3:51:56 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: CGVet58
>> he wishes (read: utopian fantasy) that a leftist like Kerry would grow some stones and put America first above all else.

Exactly my take when I read this. Friedman has his days....then he gets into water cooler chat with his co-workers and the dreaming begins.
9 posted on 02/15/2004 3:59:59 AM PST by The Raven
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
[The Baathists' and Islamists'] strategy is to sow chaos, defeat President Bush and hope that his Democratic successor will pull out. -Thomas L. Friedman

There is a certain Schadenfreude in realizing moveon.org liberals are reading this and eating their livers.

10 posted on 02/15/2004 4:02:25 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: The Raven
Tom Friedman is a pompous ass, and an anti-semitic Jew to boot.
11 posted on 02/15/2004 4:10:55 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Actually, this is crazy. The reason he wrote this is because Kerry is unclear as to what he'll do. But, it's not hard to fill in the blanks with Kerry. When Friedman does this and plays the tape out - he doesn't like it so he needs to dream.

12 posted on 02/15/2004 4:16:53 AM PST by The Raven
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To: PGalt
Thomas L. Friedman gets paid to write this nonsense?

He pays to write this stuff to LIBERALS who read the NYT..

remember, most of the Dems are running on "cut and run" from Iraq...Kerry is wishywashy, and it will only escalate terror if he continues to be wishy washy, since the terrorists watch CNN.

If he comes out and says he backs the war, they might settle down

As for energy policy, BUsh sadi the same thing...in a different form.

13 posted on 02/15/2004 4:21:16 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: The Raven
I may disagree with some of Friedman's specifics, but I do agree with the main point, i.e., Kerry and the Dems need to circle the wagons with GWB on the ultimate objectives in Iraq. Kerry and the Dems cannot give aid and comfort to the enemy (as they did in the Vietnam War) by providing the Baathists and al-Qaeda with the hope that the upcoming US election will result in a US pullout. The Dems are endagering US military lives and damaging our foreign policy by their strident anti-war message.
14 posted on 02/15/2004 4:26:38 AM PST by kabar
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To: LadyDoc
I think it will be hard for Kerry to change his stripes, after comments like, The threat of terrorism is overrated.
Bush can campaign on that line alone as he stands side by side with all the families who lost loved ones on 911.
15 posted on 02/15/2004 4:30:27 AM PST by doosee
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To: zarf
Friedman is a hyper-emotional, new age, State Department wannabe. In his world, if we all hold hands and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony", then everybody will kiss and make up.

Friedman has his ups and downs, but at least in this column he is strongly advocating a tough policy that is the very opposite of the "kiss and make up" approach you describe.

The essence of his column puts the following words in Kerry's mouth, and they are anything but a warm 'n fuzzy handholder for the terrorists:

You can blow yourselves up from now until next Ramadan, but we'll still be in Iraq. You'll be dead, but we'll still be there. Which part of that sentence don't you understand?'

16 posted on 02/15/2004 4:34:00 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: The Raven
The New York Time is writing the script for Kerry to be successful.

But they don't take sides!

The revel in their "objectivity." Which is, they "object" to anything conservative.
17 posted on 02/15/2004 4:35:52 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: doosee
Yep, still waiting for any Dem to show ANY anger whatsoever at Islamo-fascism. Unlimited amounts of vicious hate for Republicans, none for those that aim to kill us.
18 posted on 02/15/2004 4:36:16 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: Bluntpoint
If I were president, I would insist that we have a real policy of energy conservation to enlist every American in this war, by asking each of us to choke off some of the funds going to the Islamist totalitarians. -[the Kerry of Friedman's imagination]

How about drilling in ANWR?

19 posted on 02/15/2004 4:47:44 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: The Raven
BUMP for this evening's perusal.
20 posted on 02/15/2004 4:56:16 AM PST by Morgan's Raider
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