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Common Blood Infections Kill Millions
AP ^ | 2-14-04

Posted on 02/15/2004 7:02:04 PM PST by nuconvert

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: nuconvert
At a company I worked at once there was a manager whom everyone liked. His daughter worked there too. He was probably in his forties and seemed healthy if somewhat overweight. One Monday we heard the shocking news that he had suddenly died over the weekend ... of a blood infection. Many people in the company went to his funeral.
21 posted on 02/15/2004 10:01:08 PM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded
The "bugs" are getting stronger. The meds are having a hard time keeping up.
22 posted on 02/15/2004 10:11:27 PM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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To: TruthNtegrity
Part of the problem is antibiotic overuse that has created drug-resistant germs.

My husband is a physician. He tells me about mothers bringing in their children with nothing more than a cold, and demanding antibiotics. He won't prescribe them for a cold, explaining to the mothers that an antibiotic is ineffective on a viral infection. No matter. They demand antibiotics. He won't prescribe them, they threaten to go somewhere else, he tells them that that is their right.

I get sinus infections periodically, but try not to go on antibiotics unless I really need to. I've kicked 2 out of the last three infections just using a salt water rinse and flonase. If I'm on antibiotics, I try to eat yogurt with active cultures daily.

23 posted on 02/15/2004 10:22:09 PM PST by .38sw
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To: nuconvert
Mis-read the headline. At first, it looked like, "Common Blood Infections Kill Muslims."
24 posted on 02/15/2004 10:44:51 PM PST by Salvey
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To: Polybius
My mother died from sesis. She was diagnois two weeks before that with ALS,she went in to the hospital came home and developed sesis and died.
25 posted on 02/15/2004 11:32:05 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: .38sw
I hate taking meds, I have enough to take with Synthroid and Sodium Dilantin and others without taking anything else other than a baby aspirin.

Medications, while helpful under certain circumstances seem to have taken on a faddish life. During the Flu season you hear people comparing which med they are taking and how strong or how expensive it is.

If people had to rely on daily meds to help them lead a fairly normal life, that they would demand these drugs. I have a brother who is diabetic and also a transplant recipiant - you wouldn't believe the number of drugs he has to take - plus his insulin.

Oh phooey, to tired to really get going on my soap box about this...
26 posted on 02/15/2004 11:43:08 PM PST by dixie sass (Signed - Sealed - CPAC'd and Delivered)
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To: MedicalMess
I created a weaponized version of Clostridium difficile.

For what purpose?

28 posted on 02/16/2004 2:29:12 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: Polybius
The author refers to sepsis as "a common bloodstream infection" as if it were a unique infectious disease such as AIDS or TB. The lay reader is left to wonder and fear if he might "catch" sepsis if he goes to visit Aunt Martha at the hospital.

I have statistics on sepsis and there are a few things that cause it. The problem is that they don't have a protocol for treating sepsis because no one in the government has given them an approved formula that will protect them from being sued by lawyers. The proper formula for sepsis is a no-brainer since the situation is immediately life threatening (vancomycin and diflucan). 30% of all bodies in hospital morgues are from sepsis.

29 posted on 02/16/2004 2:36:08 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: Glenn
I created a weaponized version of Clostridium difficile.

For what purpose?

It was accidental. I through about 30 antibiotics at multiple autoimmune disorders I had created on two initial antibiotics. I was trying to but it back down since I knew the autoimmune disorders were fraud and it was a bacterium that got out hand. I didn't know what bacteria it was so I had to fish around for two and a half years before a pattern of reversals arose so I realized it was Clostridium difficile of an extraintestinal manifestation. That's how I knew what to go looking for to find the core disease causing many autoimmune disorders. See my research. Search "chronic illness" and destroying political parties on this site. If you were to catch my strain of CD it would take off rather quickly if you needed to treat something else with antibiotics. I am resistant to ALL major classes of antibiotics, 3 to 5 antibiotics in each class.

30 posted on 02/16/2004 2:49:16 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: MedicalMess
Correction: I was trying to but down = I was trying to put down
31 posted on 02/16/2004 3:00:31 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: nuconvert
Part of the problem is antibiotic overuse that has created drug-resistant germs.

Aggressive treatment should begin in the emergency room and include immediate use of broad-spectrum antibiotics rather than waiting a few days for test results to identify the specific germ

Antibiotic "overuse" has not "created" drug-resistant germs, but only revealed them by killing off the others. There have been drug-resistant strains around since before the beginning of our use of antibiotics.

Regarding the evolution of resistant strains AND the immediate harm done by any strain, antibiotic UNDERUSE is a bigger problem, by several orders of magnitude.

The fact that the two sentences I clipped in italics above can exist comfortably in the same article demonstrates the irrational thinking that has grown up around this problem.

32 posted on 02/16/2004 3:03:15 AM PST by Yeti
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To: nuconvert
He died from Group A beta-hemolytic streptococcal sepsis, in about six hours.
33 posted on 02/16/2004 3:05:27 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Polybius
The reporter is simply taking a secondary complication of any infectious process and sensationalizing it into the Killer Disease of the Month.

Actually, the reporter is taking a press release from the manufacturer of activated Protein C (Xigris), and running it as a news story because she is too lazy to research the topic.

34 posted on 02/16/2004 3:09:01 AM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Glenn
I created a weaponized version of Clostridium difficile.

For what purpose?

It's not like I did anything illegal. It was a medical experiment and I was the guinea pig. I just possess the worst case scenario of Clostridium difficile. Medical personnel infect 50% of newborns in the first 48 hours and most of them are resistant.

But mine is really, really, seriously resistant.

We had to pull my wife off of antibiotics because she started to get peripheral neuropathy within just a few days because I had passed my resistance to her. If someone were to catch my bug and take antibiotics they would never know what hit them without my expertise. Apart from pseudo membranous colitis all the other manifestations are classified as autoimmune disorders with no remedy. What a horrible con job the medical establishment has done on the American public. These disorders can be put down without antibiotics.

Just click on my post name to read about me and the experiment. It is one of the boldest revolutionary experiments ever performed.

35 posted on 02/16/2004 3:17:51 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: Yeti
Antibiotic "overuse" has not "created" drug-resistant germs, but only revealed them by killing off the others. There have been drug-resistant strains around since before the beginning of our use of antibiotics.

Absolutely, totally false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got papers on creating resistant Clostridium difficile by growing it in culture medium with ampicillin, erythromycin, rifampin and other antibiotics. Some antibiotics not only create a resistant strain in culture, but, the antibiotic also causes "sporation". The antibiotic becomes a food resource in a pure culture!

What you said is what I used to think. This CD turned on me with TMP/SMX, a sulfur drug. I found out later that CD eats sulfur. This bug found a way to crack the molecule that was killing it and turned it into a super food resource. No joke......

36 posted on 02/16/2004 3:30:16 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: TruthNtegrity
I hear you.....I know people that simply have to call the doc and get an antibiotic ordered over the phone...it's not coincidental that most of these folks have Medicare with an excellant suppliment so there is no cost to them....
37 posted on 02/16/2004 5:16:36 AM PST by cherry
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To: Jim Noble
That sounds definitive. I'll buy it.
Thanks.
38 posted on 02/16/2004 6:34:23 AM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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To: .38sw
Nice to hear your husband "sticks to his guns" .
Wish all physicians would.
39 posted on 02/16/2004 6:43:05 AM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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To: Salvey
They're not immune.
40 posted on 02/16/2004 6:43:49 AM PST by nuconvert ("Progress was all right. Only it went on too long.")
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