I don't think libertarians are being bashed per se.
From post #22:
Libertarians are hypocrites. To hear them say that they are the party of "small government" is laughable. They will use the full force and power of the FEDERAL Government and the FEDERAL courts when it suits their underlying ammoral agenda. Then they will sit back and claim that anyone who opposes them also supports "Big Government." They have been quite effective in silencing many conservatives with this propaganda tactic.
The fact remains that libertarians have no problem with a small minority in a small state forcing it's values on the entire nation through the Federal Court system, in a manner that is completely incompatable with the founders intent.
The simple fact that the libertarians are Ok with the idea of an Activist Court inventing a new right out of the blue with no basis in law, no basis in common sense and no basis in the Constitution, Shows that they do not support limited Government at all. The libertarians support perversion and immorality, not limited government.
To even suggest that John Adams intended for Homosexuals to be married when he wrote the Constitution of Massachusetts is laughable. Anyone seriously suggesting such nonsense probably needs to quite smoking the crack. The libertarians will line up lock step behind activist judges inventing new rights when it suits their agenda, then they will sit back and claim that it is "Big Government" to oppose this garbage. Problem is if you can invent a right out of thin air, then you can take away a right just as easily. We shouldn't be needing a Constitutional Amendment to BAN sodomite marriage, the perverts should have to propose an amendment CALLING for it. Not one of the Founders intended for marriage to be open to degenerate sodomites. In the entire history of our nation to just bring up something so stupid would have gotten you laughed out of any conversation now look where we are. The libertarians are so bent on destroying society's morality and pushing an AMMORAL code on everyone else, that they cannot even see how pro big government they really are. IF it suits their agenda.
TRUE liberty is not LICENSE.
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hedgetrimmer wrote:
The point is, to have and to keep liberty, individuals must set limits on themselves and be responsible keepers of the trust the forefathers handed us.
Libertarian philosophy entirely agrees.
That trust is based on the idea that men are basically good, and that they can be trusted to be moral and responible to the rest of society. The framework that men use that makes them virtuous, and trustworthy is a belief in the Creator which helps them to set natural limits, without coercion from the government or other people, to their individual behavior.
It may be the idea behind the post is even though the Constitution says you are free to do whatever you like, in order for a Constutional government to flourish, you must have a natural set of brakes you apply within yourself that restrains your behavior from harming others and from harming society. Beyond that, having the type of character that people would call moral or virtuous, is the ideal character for a citizen of a Constitutional Republic.
I have no problems at all with your beliefs, as you express them above..
Why did you agree with the bashing as in post 22?