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Campaign Funds Topic at Forum-Campaign Finance Reform Thread - Day 68
Columbia Spectator ^ | 2/18/04 | Rebecca Gross

Posted on 02/18/2004 6:51:24 AM PST by Valin

Student Reps for Dean, Edwards, Kerry, Bush Debate Campaign Finance

Student representatives campaigning for President George W. Bush and Democratic candidates Howard Dean, John Edwards, and John Kerry, participated in a presidential forum hosted by Democracy Matters last night.

The forum--the third in a five-part series--focused on campaign finance reform and other monetary issues. Each representative addressed the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act, fundraising limits, and the sources from which each candidate accepted campaign funds.

Wayne Ting, CC '06 and the student representative for Kerry, started the discussion with comments on Kerry's record and his support of the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act.

Ting said that Kerry has never accepted money from Political Action Committees, and has also returned money donated from organizations he does not support.

"If you want to compete on the national level," he said, "You're going to have to accept dollars from people that may have ulterior motives. Kerry has been fairly careful not to accept dollars from people he doesn't agree with."

In elections, individuals can contribute up to $2,000 in both the primary and the presidential election. PACs can contribute up to $5,000.

But PACs can also bundle the contributions of individuals together and give them to candidates. This method of bundling allows PACs to exceed their $5,000 limit. Because the money comes from a PAC--despite originally being from the pockets of individuals--the PAC can still further its interests through this sort of contribution.

Bryan Schaitkin, CC '04 and the representative for Dean, talked about the former Vermont governor's policy and about how small donations should be matched by higher amounts so that they carry the weight of larger donations. He brought up the importance of reaching out to individuals for contributions as opposed to just reaching out to organizations.

"Dean has accumulated most of his funds through average Americans contributing whatever they can afford," Schaitkin said.

Schaitkin also suggested that if one candidate opts out of staying within campaign finance limits, the other candidates should be eligible to receive additional spending. This would encourage candidates to stay within the limits and create a campaign "between two relatively equally funded candidates," he said.

Edwards representative Alison Goodman, CC '04, made note of Edward's support of the McCain-Feingold bill. She also brought up the fact that Edwards is the only candidate who does not accept donations from registered lobbyists.

"He believes we should stop the influence of lobbyists walking through Washington with legislation in one hand and campaign contributions in the other," she said.

Goodman also said that Edwards has not opted out of a publicly funded campaign like Dean has.

Dean representative Schaitkin countered that "any candidate who wants to be successful has to get out of the system."

Goodman disagreed. "In order to have a successful campaign, you don't need to opt out," she said.

P.D. Shah, CC '05 and representative for Bush, spoke about the president's emphasis on the importance of disclosing all campaigns.

"Bush is the only candidate who discloses all his campaign contributions online," Shah said.

Shah also brought up the fact that 527s can raise millions of dollars--independent of parties--that can be spent on the election without any accountability. 527s are grassroot organizations that have raised their money through small individual contributions.

Over the past two months, 527s have spent $40 million advertising against Bush.

"President Bush is dedicated to stopping 527s from operating outside of McCain-Feingold," Shah said.

The Democratic representatives disagreed with Shah.

Ting countered that the main question is not whether 527s need to be stopped, but rather why they feel the need to raise lots of money in the hopes of defeating Bush.

Two other organizations will host presidential forums this week. Tonight's forum is sponsored by the Queer Alliance. The Asian Alliance is sponsoring the fifth forum, which will take place on Thursday night.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaignfinance; cfr; cfrdailythread; firstamendment; mccainfeingold; shaysmeehan

1 posted on 02/18/2004 6:51:24 AM PST by Valin
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To: RiflemanSharpe; Lazamataz; proud American in Canada; Congressman Billybob; backhoe; jmc813; ...
Yesterdays thread
Whose Constitution Is It, Anyway
The Ameracan Enterprise Institute/National Review
12/11/03 Robert H. Bork
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1079816/posts?page=1


If you want on/off this Campaign Finance Reform ;ist please let me know.

If you are interested in posting some of these threads please let me know
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2 posted on 02/18/2004 6:59:08 AM PST by Valin (America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
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Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob
Special to FreeRepublic | 17 December 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

This is nothing like the usual whine by someone whose post was pulled. JimRob pulled my previous thread for a good reason. "If direct fund-raising were permitted on FR, it would soon be wall-to-wall fund-raising."

So, let's start again correctly. This is about civil disobedience to support the First Amendment and challenge the TERRIBLE CFR decision of the Supreme Court to uphold a terrible law passed by Congress and signed by President Bush.

All who are interested in an in-your-face challenge to the 30- and 60-day ad ban in the Campaign Finance "Reform" Act, please join in. The pattern is this: I'm looking for at least 1,000 people to help the effort. I will run the ad, and risk fines or jail time to make it work -- AND get national support.

But there should be NO mentions of money in this thread, and not in Freepmail either. This is JimRob's electronic home, and we should all abide his concerns.

Put your comments here. Click on the link above, and send me your e-mail addresses. I will get back to you by regular e-mail with the practical details.

This CAN be done. This SHOULD be done. But it MUST be done in accord with JimRob's guidelines.


Fair enough?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042394/posts



Update
I've already tested the idea of my in-your-face challenge ads, first in the print media and then deliberately illegal on TV, with certain editors I have a long relationship with. I could trust these two gentlemen, one in the print media and the other in the broadcast media, with a "heads up" on what I am planning. Both said they wanted to know, in advance, when I am about to do this.

The bottom line is clear. If I am willing to put my neck on the line, with the possibilities of a fine and jail time, THAT effort will put CFR back on the front page in all media. And that is part of the point. There's not much value of going in-your-face against the enemies of the First Amendment unless the press takes up the story and spreads the word. It is now clear they will do exactly that.

Update 2
QUICK PROGRESS REPORT, ANSWERING A SUPPORTER'S QUESTION:
We have about 15% of the needed 1,000 sign-ups.

Spread the word, direct folks to the front page link on my website.

Google-bomb the phrase "anti-CFR" directing readers to that page and link. (We're already #2 and #4 on Google.)

Target date is now August, since the NC primary looks to be put back to September. (Remember, the ad isn't illegal until the 29th day before the election.)


Cordially,

John / Billybob


Note if you are interested in more on this please contact Valin or Congressman Billybob
3 posted on 02/18/2004 7:00:22 AM PST by Valin (America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
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To: Valin
I'm concerned that the students were _not_ concerned about how CFR conflicts with the First Amendment. Even more disconcerting is the fact that the candidates they support don't seem to care about this, either.
4 posted on 02/18/2004 9:33:08 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Opportunity: http://www.peroutka2004.com)
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To: The_Eaglet
Good point.
5 posted on 02/18/2004 9:45:12 AM PST by Valin (America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
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