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To: 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; Aeronaut; AFPhys; ...
Interesting opinion here.
6 posted on 02/18/2004 8:14:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Well, though I've had questions about Kerry beaching his boat like he did .. but I never felt I had the right to question it because I wasn't there

Seems this gentleman was there and brings up some good points

I wonder if Chrissy Mathews will have him on his show any time soon?

20 posted on 02/18/2004 8:23:42 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Howlin
very interesting. Hopefully, all this "I served in Vietnam, so I should be your Commander in Chief " talk will turn around and bite him in the butt.
23 posted on 02/18/2004 8:24:08 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. Has anyone ever found out about one of Kerry's band of brothers, the one who claims to have flown out to Iowa at his own expense to reunite with Kerry?
26 posted on 02/18/2004 8:27:07 PM PST by Dolphy
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Thanks for the bump.....FISHY is right! Just doesn't add up.
30 posted on 02/18/2004 8:27:56 PM PST by hoosiermama (Ask Kerry to list the major pieces of enacted legislation he has authored in his career.)
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More on Kerry's "war."
31 posted on 02/18/2004 8:28:39 PM PST by Howlin
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Thanks, Howlin.

I just read this, and I feel it goes beyond simple opinion. The number of disconnects do not connect very well at all. If you try to string enough of Kerry's claims, it's like trying to stack marbles in a corner.

There are a number of things to consider, and one that has stuck out in my mind is when he went after the rocketeer on the beach, after having carved him up with a fifty-cal, he may have seriously broken the rules of engagement. Plus, he had immediately anchored his boat and crew to the location, figuratively, putting them in needless danger. I am not a military man, but it seems this to me is not a very pretty thing for Kerry to hang his hat upon.
45 posted on 02/18/2004 8:34:59 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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Here is my take on John Kerry's service, I have read countless articles both pro and con, and after a couple hundred articles, public statements, sworn testimony, accounts from those who served with him, Military publications, Archived articles, and first hand "Letters to the Editor" of serving with John Kerry, I have concluded this......

John Kerry was born into a very wealthy family, he spent his teenage years hanging around John F. Kennedy and other North Eastern media elites. He chose the Navy in an effort to emulate John F. Kennedy, and I believe he had someone in the Navy looking after him in an effort to groom him for later political aspirations.

John Kerry received three Purple Hearts, one Bronze Star and one Silver Star in 4 months of service on a Swift Boat on the Mekong Delta. The descriptions of the wounds he received seem to any reasonable person as "Minor". The story behind his Silver Star is at least suspect, and I still can't find a story on how he earned his Bronze Star.

I understand that John Kerry served his country in Vietnam, and so did hundreds of thousands of others. They all have records and so does John Kerry. Since George W. Bush released all of his records while serving in the Texas Air National Guard, I thing it's time we all see John Forbes Kerry's Military records.

When that demand is made..... be prepared for the cries of foul play, just like the cries of foul play we are hearing about Ann Coulter article on how Max Cleland's lost his three limbs in Vietnam.

In my best Jack Nicholson voice, I will say this..... Hey you Liberals.... You say you want the truth..... You can't handle the truth

83 posted on 02/18/2004 9:01:23 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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"Interesting opinion here."

Perhaps, but it also reeks of "setup."

Oh, "Kerry's having an affair." Not.
Oh, "Kerry's medals were scammed." Not.
Oh, "Insert wild goose chase here." Not.

Look, Kerry is an uber-liberal New England perfumed prince son of priviledge.

He's so pro-gay that he can claim to be "anti-gay-marriage" and the Gay Lobby just winks, laughs, and sends him more money.

He's so enviromental that he can tell Union boss Hoffa, Jr. that he is all for drilling as many oil wells in Alaska as possible, and the Greens just laugh, wink, and send him more campaign ca$h.

He's so anti-war that he can vote *for* our invasion of Iraq and the peaceniks just laugh, wink, and send him more money. In short, Kerry's public record cements in most red and blue state voters against and for him.

...but none of that puts him into the White House. All that does is re-win for him in 2004 the states that Gore won in 2000.

And that means that he *loses* in 2004 just like Gore lost in 2000.

So what Kerry needs is to be seen as a victim. It needs to appear as though the great right wing is being unfair to him. It needs to be so unfair in appearance that independent voters in enough states give him the sympathy vote.

And I'm very leary of all of these anti-Kerry "non-scandals" that seem to be appearing first from known rats such as the non-afair rumour from Wesley Clark's aide.

Let me be frank about this matter: even if true, these rumors and scandals do us Pubbies no good. The Gore-2000 states aren't going to be turned off by such things (at least, not if they apply to their guy).

So there is No "upside" to pursuing such filth.

On the other hand, if we get caught hyping a planted, scandalous rumor that turns out to be untrue, then there is an enormous downside risk to us in that a sympathy vote could be generated for Kerry.

So enough of the tabloid chasing, people. These matters can only burn us.

93 posted on 02/18/2004 9:14:56 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Howlin
Thanks Howlin. Very interesting, indeed.
179 posted on 02/19/2004 6:34:02 AM PST by iceskater
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"Interesting" only begins to describe this.

But, how can this be used in a campaign?
194 posted on 02/19/2004 12:22:55 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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What I remember about the anti-war people during those years is that they all made fun of the medals, usually saying they were handed out like candy and not worth much.

I think it's very likely that Kerry met men braver, better, more intelligent than he could ever be, while he was in Viet Nam, and that's why he trashed them all, even knowing he was endangering their lives by doing it, when he came back. What a nasty piece of work he is.
201 posted on 02/19/2004 2:37:14 PM PST by WaterDragon
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