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Well, since you are "always right" guess you know! Got any gay relatives??

Yeah, I have a brother-in-law who is 'bi'. The gay community can't stand it and try to convince he is gay and there is no such thing as 'bi'. He has stuggled because he finds women attractive but still likes to be with guys. Sexual identity and fetishes are greatly influenced by environment and sexual orgasism provide perhaps the strongest postive reinforcement mechanism that works to also shape human behavior. The scientific evidence points to lots of influences, but the 'experts' ignore all the facts. There is nothing that supports the current belief that sexuality identity is soley caused by genetics. The best evidence they show are twin studies, but even the most biased twin studies only show a 50% correlation. That leaves a lot of room for other influences.

The studies show pretty strongly that the three leading causes of homosexual behavior (Same-sex Attraction Disorder) are (1)being abused (either sexually or physically, with molestation being far and away the best indicator), (2)having an absent or insufficent relationship with one's father, and (3)relentless teasing by one's peers during the formative years. Of course not every person subjected to these horrors will contract SAD, but almost every SAD has one or more of these characteristics.

No verified study shows a genetic link.

Well, since you are "always right" guess you know! Got any gay relatives??

I have a brother who is trapped in perversion. I do not know if he was molested but I know for a certainty that he was physically abused, had no relationship with our dad and was torturously teased by his classmates.

Likewise every SAD that I know of has these same characteristics. And so do most ex-SADs which shows that environement is overcomeable.

It is something that you are either born with or you are not. Learned this the hard way

Got any gay relatives??

Are your "gay" relatives the basis for your conclusion? If so, perhaps you could tell us a little bit about their childhood but especially about their parents. Just a following a hunch.

Well ... I have struggled with this very long. I am inclined to believe that some people are born gay, with a genetic predisposition to be attracted to the other sex. (I am not a doctor, nor am I willing to opine on any study or info quoted out of context here ... I am smart enough to admit I do not know those answers)

My guess is, however, that deviant sexual behavior is also learned. That is, people can be guided toward such behavior by events and environment. Sex, after all, is not all about attraction, it has many psycological elements including submission, resignation, violence, lack of self-esteem, rebellion etc.

So, in my humble, non medical opinion, I do think that many people perform gay sex acts that are not really born gay.

It is the deviancy that attracts some. I do not believe people are born to have sex with infants, or children, or animals, but rather some do s for a vast combination of reasons.

Having said all that, I have relatives who are gay, and I know some very committed professionals who are gay. And, there are just so many indications that they could not have ever been anything else.

In my mind, the act of gay sex is deviant behavior, and it should not be celebrated. By the same token, people should not be persecuted.

The argument over state recognition of gay marriage is really about whether or not we are prepared to celebrate the anomaly. I do not see why we would. But I have little tolerance for those who hate for the sake of hating. This from a pro-life, conservative, catholic, married, father of three.