A 'hostile' takeover bid at the Sierra Club

Christian Science Monitor ^ | February 20, 2004 | Brad Knickerbocker

[presidio9]

Your question is weird.

It's not weird. You're just evading it. You call classify these individuals as "criminals," despite the fact that most of these individuals are extremely hard workers who will never break another law in their lives. I'm just wondering what crime you would compare entering this country illegally to.

[Thud]

I can't wait for them to come for genocide of the whole human race to protect the environment, with everyone else going first.

[Dante3]

I am not evading any question. I can't say it any clearer. Legal immigrants who commit crimes and illegal aliens (they are criminals) should be deported. Illegal aliens demonstrate that they are willing to break our laws if it is to their benefit. Illegal aliens pose a grave danger to this country -- no one can deny that.

Anyone who wants more illegals into this country falls into one or more of the following somewhat overlapping categories:
1. is greedy, has a personal vested interests
2. hates this country
3. admires a Third World Country lifestyle
4. is involved with drug dealing, terrorists, or other criminal enterprises
5. is stupid enough to actual believe these criminals are good for the country (a study posted recently here on FR showed their negative impact)
6. suffers from delusions or other forms of mental illness

There is not one single legitimate reason why we should allow illegal aliens to remain here. Furthermore, expelling them can be readily done. Of course, I don't propose deporting legal citizens although the federal government has done this in select cases of naturalized citizens.

We sure do not need more people in this country, especially not criminals.

[presidio9]

...and then there are adults like me. I don't "want" illegals in this country. I am aware that they are here and symptomatic of a larger problem. Namely, the welfare economy. As long as our government continues to artificially inflate the wages of manual labor by giving the unskilled an alternative to picking grapes and washing dishes, the low end of the employment market will be forced to pay those workers at above market value. This, not fanciful "benefits to illegals" creates the incentive for the desperate to seek any means to enter the US. Mexico is a poor coutry, but even there the poor can receive rudimentary medical care. They aren't risking their lives to come here for health care. Most can't even think that far in advance.

[Kenny Bunk]

Pray expand. What the heck does the Sierra Club, Volvo-drivin elitists that they always seemed to me, have to do with unions?

In Maine we say a Sierra Club member is "... a guy who already has a house in the woods."