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STATE INTERPOSITION
Speech at New Hampshire Center for Constitutional Studies Conference ^ | September 2000 | Dr. Herbert W. Titus, J.D.

Posted on 02/19/2004 4:47:19 PM PST by Federalist 78

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Herbert W. Titus is an attorney with the law firm of Troy A. Titus, P.C. in Virginia Beach, Virginia and is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. in McLean, Virginia. Prior to his association with these two firms, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly thirty years at five different American Bar Association-approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals.

Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Texas and North Dakota.

He serves as general counsel to the American Health Legal Foundation and the Michael New Defense Fund, as well as Senior Legal Advisor to the The Liberty Committee. He also does research and legal writing for the Free Speech Coalition and other similar organizations dedicated to the restoration of constitutional law and liberty in the nation.

Mr. Titus has appeared as a guest on radio and television shows and, for two years, hosted his own daily radio program, That's The Law, on the VCY America network. He has testified on constitutional issues before the United States Congress. He has also testified on state and federal constitutional issues before the state legislatures of Nevada, South Carolina, and Washington. His views on constitutional law have received wide circulation among members of Congress, state legislatures and public policy advocates and organizations.

Mr. Titus has written numerous articles, book chapters and constitutional studies and analyses. He is the author of God, Man & Law: The Biblical Principle, a widely-acclaimed text on American common law. He has also produced Family to Family Forum, a seminar series featuring audio and video tapes, as well as printed materials, teaching the practical application of common law principles to current public policy issues.

Mr. Titus and his wife, Marilyn, have been married 39 years and reside in Chesapeake, Virginia. The Tituses have four children and 12 grandchildren.

1 posted on 02/19/2004 4:47:20 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: hocndoc; cpforlife.org; MHGinTN
John Eidsmoe, Lt. Colonel, USAFR(Ret.) Colonel, Alabama State Defense Force, Professor, Thomas Goode Jones School of Law

Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition offers the following definition:

" Interposition. The doctrine that a state, in the exercise of its sovereignty, may reject a mandate of the federal government deemed to be unconstitutional or to exceed the powers delegated to the federal government.
The concept is based on the 10th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States reserving to the states powers not delegated to the United States. Historically, the doctrine emanated from Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dallas 419, wherein the state of Georgia, when sued in the Supreme Court by a private citizen of another state, entered a remonstrance and declined to recognize the court's jurisdiction. Amendment 11 validated Georgia's position.
Implementation of the doctrine may be peaceable, as by resolution, remonstrance or legislation, or may proceed ultimately to nullification with forcible resistance.
The Constitution does contemplate and provide for the contingency of adverse state interposition or legislation to annul or defeat the execution of national laws." In Re Charge to Grand Jury, Fed. Case No. 18,274 [2 Spr. 292].

Far from a radical doctrine, interposition is actually a middle ground position. Absolute submission to unlawful authority leads to and sanctions tyranny and oppression. Popular rebellion can lead to chaos and bloodshed. Interposition -- lesser magistrates, state and local authorities, placing themselves between their people and the higher magistrates or federal authorities -- is a moderate course that is less likely to result in either extreme.

But in recent decades the system has become unbalanced. Federal power has expanded exponentially, at the expense of state and local authority and individual freedom. And the judicial branch of the federal government has become nearly absolute in its authority. Checks and balances against the judiciary still exist, but the other branches and levels of government seem unwilling to employ them. The result is that, as Professor Graglia of the University of Texas School of Law has stated,

"...judicial usurpation of legislative power has become so common and complete that the Supreme Court has become our most powerful and important instrument of government in terms of determining the nature and quality of American life. Questions literally of life and death (abortion and capital punishment), of public morality (control of pornography, prayer in the schools, and government aid to religious schools), and of public safety (criminal procedure and street demonstrations), are all, now, in the hands of judges under the guise of questions of constitutional law. The fact that the Constitution says nothing of, say, abortion, and indeed, explicitly and repeatedly recognizes the capital punishment the Court has come close to prohibiting, has made no difference.
The result is that the central truth of constitutional law today is that it has nothing to do with the Constitution except that the words 'due process' or 'equal protection' are almost always used by the judges in stating their conclusions. Not to put too fine a point on it, constitutional law has become a fraud, a cover for a system of government by the majority vote of a nine-person committee of lawyers, unelected and holding office for life."

A further problem with judicial review is that many judges no longer feel bound by the plain wording of the Constitution and the intent of those who wrote it. The result, as Chancellor Kent once wrote, is that judges feel free to "roam at large in the trackless fields of their own imaginations." And if they are not bound by the plain letter of the Constitution as intended by its Framers, their power is virtually unlimited.

Good arguments can be made for judicial review, at least in a limited form. But does judicial review really mean that every time a federal judge issues an order, every other branch and every other level of government must salute, say "Yes Sir!" and march in lockstep to the beat of a federal judge's drum. As a Professor of Constitutional Law for 20 years, I challenge anyone to show me any language in the Constitution that gives federal judges such absolute power. Such a notion would fly in the face of the Framers' basic belief that no one branch or level should have such absolute power. Many leading Americans have emphatically rejected this notion. For example, Thomas Jefferson wrote in an 1820 letter,

"You seem...to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions -- a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. ... Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so... . They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.
... The Constitution has erected no such tribunal, knowing that, to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots."

President Andrew Jackson refused to enforce orders of the Supreme Court with which he disagreed. Abraham Lincoln declared that

"...if the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties to personal actions, the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."

And Theodore Roosevelt wrote,

"It is the people, and not the judges, who are entitled to say what their constitution means, for the constitution is theirs, it belongs to them and not to their servants in office -- any other theory is incompatible with the foundation principles of our government."

University of South Carolina Law Professors William J. Quirk and R. Randall Birdwell, in their book Judicial Dictatorship (New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers, 1997), note that

"The philosophical assumptions of judicial review are so inconsistent with democratic theory that there is along tradition of resistance to it. The resistance, today, is a largely underground movement that exists outside the normal academic and law school curriculum. Historically, the members of the resistance are an impressive group. The include the great democratic presidents: Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Franklin D. Roosevelt. They include the great constitutional scholars: James Bradley Thayer, The Origin and Scope of the American Doctrine of Constitutional Law (1893) and John Marshall [a 1920 book by Thayer]; Louis Boudin, Government by Judiciary (1932); Edward S. Corwin, Court over Constitution (1938); Henry Steele Commager, Majority Rule and Minority Rights (1943); and Learned Hand, The Bill of Rights (1958). Who made the Court, as Learned Hand asks: 'the arbiters of all political authority in the nation with a discretion to act or not, as they please?'"

Chief Justice John Marshall firmly entrenched the principle of judicial review in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803). In that opinion he declared that a law repugnant to the Constitution is null and void. But if an Act of Congress is null and void if inconsistent with the Constitution, does not follow that the order of an unelected federal judge is also null and void if inconsistent with the Constitution?

At some point we must stand up and say to the federal judiciary, "Enough is enough! You have usurped powers that the Constitution has not delegated to you. You have imposed upon the rightful authority of the states." But when do we reach that point?

I believe we have reached that point when a federal judge tells the people of Alabama that they may not place the Ten Commandments, the moral foundation of law, in the Judicial Building of the State of Alabama -- and when, to add insult to injury, they vaunt their sculpture of the Greek goddess Themis at the federal court house just a few blocks away.

The issue is more than a monument. The issue is whether a judge may acknowledge the existence of transcendent moral absolutes and use those absolutes as he interprets and applies the law.

Many pastors have criticized the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to legalize abortion in Roe v. Wade (1973) and to legalize sodomy in Lawrence v. Texas (2003). But what is wrong with a court legalizing abortion and sodomy, if God's Law has no place in American courts?

I have known Chief Justice Roy Moore for many years. In this case, and in the earlier Etowah County litigation, I have traveled with him, worked with him, dined with him, worshipped with him, prayed with him, argued with him, and I know him to be a man of unquestionable sincerity and impeccable integrity. He has taken a stand, and risked the ruination of his career on that stand, because he is firmly convinced this is the only honorable course to follow. He believes he has a duty to God and to the people of Alabama, under the oaths he has taken to uphold the United States Constitution and the Alabama Constitution, to restore the moral foundation of our law.

Alabama has an unprecedented opportunity to stand in the gap with Chief Justice Moore and resist this federal usurpation of state authority and federal dismantling of America's Biblical heritage. If the Governor, the Attorney General, and the eight Associate Justices had stood with Chief Justice Moore, if Governor Riley had issued the call on statewide television for Alabamians to come to the Judiciary Building by the thousands to stand against the removal of the Ten Commandments, if the pastors of Alabama had joined in calling upon their parishioners to respond with a massive but peaceful protest, Judge Thompson could not have enforced his order, and the federal judiciary would have had to retreat.

I regret that the eight associate justices did not join with Chief Justice Moore as did the Justices of the Supreme Court of Utah in 1968. In Dyett v. Turner, 439 P.2d 266, the Utah Supreme Court stood against the usurpations of the Warren Court, stating:

"The United States Supreme Court, as at present constituted, has departed from the Constitution as it has been interpreted from its inception and has followed the urgings of social reformers in foisting upon this Nation laws which even Congress could not constitutionally pass. It has amended the Constitution in a manner unknown to the document itself. While it takes three-fourths of the states of the Union to change the Constitution legally, yet as few as five men who have never been elected to office can by judicial fiat accomplish a change just as radical as could three-fourths of the states of this Nation. As a result of the recent holdings of that Court, the sovereignty of the states is practically abolished, and the erstwhile free and independent states are now in effect and purpose merely closely supervised units in the federal system.
We do not believe that justices of once free and independent states should surrender their constitutional powers without being heard from. We would betray the trust of our people if we sat supinely by and permitted the great bulk of our powers to be taken over by the federal courts without at lest stating reasons why it should not be so. By attempting to save the dual relationship which has heretofore existed between state and federal authority, and which is clearly set out in the Constitution, we think we act in the best interest of our country.
We feel like galley slaves chained to our oars by a power from which we cannot free ourselves, but like the slaves of old we think we must cry out when we can see the boat heading into the maelstrom directly ahead of us; and by doing so, we hope the master of the craft will heed the call and avert the dangers which confront us all.
But by raising our voices in protest we, like the galley slaves of old, expect to be lashed for doing so. We are confident that we will not be struck by 90 percent of the people of this Nation who long for the return to the days when the Constitution was a document plain enough to be understood by all who read it, the meaning of which was set firmly like a jewel in the matrix of common sense and wise judicial decisions.
... When we bare our backs to receive the verbal lashes, we will try to be brave; and should the great court of these United States decide that in our thinking we have been in error, then we shall indeed feel honored, for we will then be placed on an equal footing with all those great justices who at this late date are also said to have been in error for so many years."

I deeply regret that the other Justices have not seen fit to join with Chief Justice Moore in resisting this federal judge's attempt to prohibit us from acknowledging the Ten Commandments as the moral foundation of law. But other judges, legislators and public officials have stood with Chief Justice Moore, and it is therefore of crucial importance that the people of Alabama rally to the Chief Justice's defense.

In the crisis that is upon Alabama today, pastors have a special responsibility to inform their people and inspire them to action. Lord Acton observed,

"...when Christ said 'Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's,' He gave to the State a legitimacy it had never before enjoyed, and set bounds to it that had never yet been acknowledged. And He not only delivered the precept but He also forged the instrument to execute it. To limit the power of the State ceased to be the hope of patient, ineffectual philosophers and became the perpetual charge of a universal Church."

During the American War for Independence, America's clergy led the way for their people to become involved. In Boston the "Father of the American Revolution," Sam Adams, proclaimed independence, and he was echoed by the "Black Regiment," the black-robed New England clergy who preached independence in pulpits throughout New England. Throughout the colonies, clergy of many faiths called upon their parishioners to answer their country's call.

2 posted on 02/19/2004 4:48:47 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
Just damn!

I never realized just how anti-Constitution the FEC is. They really do use the Constitution for asswipe in D.C.
3 posted on 02/19/2004 4:51:56 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: .30Carbine; The_Eaglet; TonyRo76; jgrubbs
It is Time to Denounce Roe v. Wade
Life-Protecting Judicial Limitation Act of 2003 To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear abortion-related cases.

Constitution Restoration Act "Cra" 2004


4 posted on 02/19/2004 4:54:40 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: Federalist 78
All copies of the Constitution should have a warning label:

WARNING! Reading this document, in light of current events, may make your head explode!
5 posted on 02/19/2004 4:55:44 PM PST by Spok
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To: Federalist 78
bump

William Flax
Return Of The Gods Web Site
[Where the Constitution is well respected!]

6 posted on 02/19/2004 4:59:14 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Federalist 78
A WONDERFUL POST! Can this in anyway mean that the people of California, Arizona and Texas may in fact defend their borders and sovereignty for state and country? Does this mean the people can decide what to do about that problem regardless of what the governors have to say? I would love an answer ASAP. Thanks.
7 posted on 02/19/2004 4:59:50 PM PST by yoe (WMD come in small containers/vials...small minds don't want you to know that.)
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To: Federalist 78; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LindaSOG
Ping worthy, in my opinion
8 posted on 02/19/2004 5:04:54 PM PST by Radix (There is more to the Rad Man than just an X Rating! But no Ping list is obvious.)
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To: Federalist 78
Thank you immensely for the ping to this exposition! Now, can we get a Pubby in high office to gird up and DO SOMETHING about the judicial oligarchy?
9 posted on 02/19/2004 6:32:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Awesome Pro-Life Pro-Constitution PING.

Reading Herbert W. Titus is an education on so many levels.

For Pro-Lifers it is critical as he provides information RARELY seen that completely neutralizes everything Roe and it's related cases lie about.

This raises serious questions about what the many pro-life legal teams have been doing for 31 years.

10 posted on 02/19/2004 6:37:24 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: MHGinTN
The states could simply ignore Roe v Wade and every subsequent FEDERAL JUDICIAL OPINION based on it.

You would see just how pro-life Bush/Ashcroft really AREN'T! Those two are the most spineless twits to ever hold office.

11 posted on 02/19/2004 6:40:38 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: cpforlife.org

This raises serious questions about what the many pro-life legal teams have been doing for 31 years.

I once has a constitutional scholar reply to me about the above statement- "DEO VINDICI!"

My response - Vindiciae Contra Tyrannos

A Footnote to the Political Theory of John Adams Vindiciae contra ...

12 posted on 02/19/2004 6:50:28 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: cpforlife.org
"This raises serious questions about what the many pro-life legal teams have been doing for 31 years." Indeed! I tried numerous contacts, to try and start a lawsuit addressing the lack of 'death certification' where prenatal infants are 'harvested' for the body parts in the fetal tissue industry. Not one group would touch it! Were I a rich man, I would hire Roy Black to hound the fetal tissue industry for the gross lack of legalities. Were I a rich man, I would start placing the latest 3D ultrasound tools in every clinic and hospital that deals with prenatal functions, and hound the abortuaries to provide full disclosure and meet at least the minimal medical standards required of even a doc in the box shop! Alas, the Bill Gates of the world accumulate the wealth and fund the abortion holocaust continuing ... and this nation slips ever onward into the abyss and cannibalism.
13 posted on 02/19/2004 7:06:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Federalist 78; MHGinTN
The problem I see with "A Footnote to the Political Theory of John Adams Vindiciae contra ..." having relevance today is in the opening Lines:

"periods in English history when thinking men, faced with tyranny, pondered....."

There seems to be few men of means and will thinking or pondering--or offering workable remedies to the Holocaust or tyranny in general.

We are a sleeping giant who may not wake before it is too late.

14 posted on 02/19/2004 7:30:46 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
bump
15 posted on 02/19/2004 9:20:19 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah ("We already have a beacon of moral clarity; the Living Magisterium."--Catholicguy 2/19/04)
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To: Federalist 78
bump for non 3am reading.
16 posted on 02/19/2004 11:37:26 PM PST by rikkir (I thought of a great tag line today...)
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18 posted on 02/20/2004 10:06:46 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Federalist 78
"Black's Law Dictionary (definition):
"Interposition. The doctrine that a state, in the exercise of its sovereignty, may reject a mandate of the federal government deemed to be unconstitutional or to exceed the powers delegated to the federal government...based on the 10th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States reserving to the states powers not delegated to the United States.",

and
"...Amendment 11 validated Georgia's position (interposition)."
and
"Implementation of the doctrine may be peaceable, as by resolution, remonstrance or legislation, or may proceed ultimately to nullification with forcible resistance. The Constitution does contemplate and provide for the contingency of adverse state interposition or legislation to annul or defeat the execution of national laws."
and finally
" ...interposition is actually a middle ground position. Absolute submission to unlawful authority leads to and sanctions tyranny and oppression. Popular rebellion can lead to chaos and bloodshed. Interposition -- is a moderate course that is less likely to result in either extreme."

Am I the only one here thinking of 1861??

The pro-north faction constantly rages about 'treason' and supposed illegality of the Southern resort to force after politics failed even while this doctrine provides for intercession against (perceived) "sanctions, tyranny and oppression".
Too bad about that "less likely to lead to chaos and bloodshed" part however.

19 posted on 02/20/2004 10:35:55 AM PST by norton
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To: Federalist 78
This is my bookmark. Thanks for the post!
20 posted on 02/20/2004 1:01:22 PM PST by .30Carbine
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