[Neets]

Well I apologize too, recognizing that I am super sensitive to the abuse of "pets"...which I have witness all too often.

And I agree with your comment about "irresponsible" breeders.

I suspect you chose your dogs for guarding or herding purposes, and if I am wrong I apologize.

This latestet one I adopted, we (vets and groomer) have no definitive idea what she is...we suspect she's part poodle and terrier or springer...

...but whatever she is, she is very intelligent, a fast learner, and very gentle, yet protective of my niece and nephew (5 and 3). She also acts as a companion for my 77 y/o mother who was quite devasted when old age caught up to our Miss Minnie.

Good luck to you in your venture with your dog(s) in the future GE.