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Actual Audio Link of John Kerry's War Crimes Testimony to Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971
Pacifica Radio Tape of John Kerry's Alleged War Crimes Testimony ^ | February 20, 2004 | John Kerry

Posted on 02/21/2004 1:52:04 PM PST by pushforbush

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To: cyncooper
I think these lines from Kerry's testimony get overlooked.

" We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service ".
" we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy obscene memory "

Sounds like in 1971,Kerry wanted to purge his memory of his military service in Vietnam. That same " filthy,obscene memory" that Kerry now beats us over the head with,on an hourly basis.
101 posted on 02/22/2004 4:12:00 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: firebrand
Get your tape recorder and set it up next to your speaker, crank up your volume, and then record it.
102 posted on 02/22/2004 7:55:35 PM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: pushforbush
BINGO:

How can anyone take the man seriously after his fantasy testimony. Listening to the tape you can tell this is not the voice of a confused young war protester, but of a mature veteran attempting to deceive Congress and the entire United States

103 posted on 02/22/2004 10:05:09 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Fatcats: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: GOPJ
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104 posted on 02/23/2004 6:19:21 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: Dog; giotto; cyncooper
Also, someone posted an article today (Mon.) from the NY Post (don't know how reliable a source that is, but seems ok on this) that quotes Kerry:

But according to Kerry, these American war criminals weren't the truly responsible parties. Kerry made a speech in April 1971 in front of the New York Stock Exchange in which he referred to William Calley, who was responsible for one of the few documented American atrocities committed during the Vietnam war.

"Guilty as Lt. Calley might have been of the actual act of murder," Kerry said, "the verdict does not single out the real criminal. Those of us who have served in Vietnam know that the real guilty party is the United States of America."


If he really said this, it's pretty clear. Kerry identifies the enemy as the U.S.

About 7 paragraphs from the end.

105 posted on 02/23/2004 10:08:07 AM PST by jwalburg (We CAN Question their Patriotism!)
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To: giotto
Remember, he was speaking before the Congress, so it's not likely that even a twerp like Kerry would insult his immediate audience by slurring their country.

I think he may have insulted Congress & The United States in the following exchange during that Senate hearing.

The Chairman: You mentioned some new faces in the Congress. After all, all these people get here because of the support back home, as you know. They are simply representative of their constituents. You do accept that, I believe.

Mr. Kerry: Partially. Not totally.

The Chairman: Why not?

Mr. Kerry: As someone who ran for office for 3 1/2 weeks, I am aware of many of the problems involved, and in many places, you can take certain districts in New York City, the structure is such that people can't really run and represent necessarily the people. People often don't care. The apathy is so great that they believe they are being represented when in fact they are not. I think that you and I could run through a list of people in this body itself and find many who are there through the powers of the office itself as opposed to the fact they are truly representing the people. It is very easy to give the illusion of representing the people through the frank privileges which allow you to send back what you are doing here in Congress. Congressmen insert so often.

You know, they gave a speech for the Polish and they gave a speech for the Irish and they gave a speech for this, and actually handed the paper in to the clerk and the clerk submits it for the record and a copy of the record goes home and people say, Hey, he really is doing something for me." But he isn't.

The Chairman: Well-

Mr. Kerry: Senator, we also know prior to this past year the House used to meet in the Committee of the Whole and the Committee of the Whole would make the votes, and votes not of record and people would file through, and important legislation was decided then, and after the vote came out and after people made their hacks and cuts, and the porkbarrel came out, the vote was reported and gave them an easy out and they could say "Well, I voted against this." and actually they voted for it all the time in the committee.

Some of us know this is going on. So I would say there are problems with it. Again I come back and say they are not insoluble. They can be solved, but they can only be solved by demanding leadership, the same kind of leadership that we have seen in some countries during war time. That seems to be the few times we get it. If we could get that kind because I think we are in a constant war against ourselves and I would like to see that come - they should demand it of eachother if we can demand it of people.

The exchange continues, but I'm not able to copy and paste from the document. I apologize for any typos. Post #57 has a link to the entire testimony if you want to check up on me, or read more of it.

Kerry says that they (members of Congress) don't necessarily represent their constituents. They gain public office because they have lots of money. They keep public office because of the power of being in the office in the first place. When the Chairman began to speak, Kerry interupted him to continue insulting Congress. He threw in "They (problems with Congress not representing the constituents) can be solved, but they can only be solved by demanding leadership, the same kind of leadership that we have seen in some countries during war time. That seems to be the few times we get it." What countries could he have been referring to? France? North Vietnam? The Soviet Union? Certainly not The United States. We don't get that kind of leadership here, according to Kerry. But that problem is not insulable. We can have that kind of leadership. If we elect him.

106 posted on 02/23/2004 12:58:26 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: pushforbush
Bookmark Bttt...
107 posted on 02/23/2004 1:17:01 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: BykrBayb
Very interesting exchange. Thank you for taking the time to type it out.

Judging from the knowledge Kerry possessed about how things are done in Congress, his appearance at this hearing seems to have had one primary purpose--to pave the way for a future run for office. It's too bad he hasn't re-read these comments about representing one's constituents. I wonder how many Massachusettes conservatives feel they're being represented in the US Senate.

108 posted on 02/23/2004 1:43:29 PM PST by giotto
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To: giotto
It's too bad he hasn't re-read these comments about representing one's constituents.

The sad thing is, I think he has. He just read them as a how-to instead of a warning.

109 posted on 02/23/2004 2:06:38 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: cyncooper
Hugh seems to be the only one playing it.
110 posted on 02/23/2004 10:59:20 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: pushforbush
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111 posted on 02/24/2004 9:05:59 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: pushforbush
Asking the Pentagon to investigate this matter -- isn't that like asking the cat to keep watch of the canary?
112 posted on 02/25/2004 11:52:49 AM PST by TiaS
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Bump
113 posted on 03/01/2004 11:37:15 AM PST by pushforbush
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To: pushforbush

bump to the top. John Kerry admitting to his war crimes!


115 posted on 08/12/2004 4:18:07 PM PDT by pushforbush
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To: firebrand
Is there any way we can get this on a tape or something, playable at the rally next Saturday? The Vietnam Veterans have a sound permit. (It should be carefully introduced and commented upon afterward, if we use it.)

If you want it in a digital form on your computer that can be editted easily, then played back from an MP3 player or whatever, download and run this utility,and paste in the links from post #1 of this thread. It works on both RealPlayer audio and video.

116 posted on 08/12/2004 4:43:51 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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