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To: supercat
Civil unios arent a middle ground. Gays wont support civil union ins lieu of ful lfledged marriage.

I predict full fledged gay marriage in all 50 states by Dec 31, 2004. Why?

Ive noticed those who favor it are far more fervent in their desire for gay marriage than are those who oppose it. I also cannot think of any time the majority has been able to stop the demands of a minority.

The left will win the culture war, once and for all. Religious conservatives will stop participating in the electoral process and in a few years the DEMs will enjoy the same electoral hegemony that the Liberals have in Canada.

Depressing but true.
6 posted on 02/21/2004 7:02:21 PM PST by raloxk
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To: raloxk
As I just posted on another thread, I realized something key that I think many people have been missing for a long time: the goal of an ideal marriage is not to create a union between two people which will last for the shorter of their two lifetimes, but rather to create a family which will last forever.

The term "family" is often used to refer to people who happen to share a household, but the real meaning goes much deeper; it refers to a collection of people, wherever residing, who are connected by blood or regarded as being so.

Any person of proper breeding will have one mother, one father, two grandmothers, and two grandfathers. Whether or not the individuals are alive, and whether roles are physically biological or merely socioligical, a person's ancestry represents a perpetual and unchangeable part of the person's identity.

In another thread, I suggested one case where I thought a homosexual person should probably be allowed to adopt: if the only living relative of an orphan happens to be gay, that should not disqualify that person from adopting his nephew/cousin/whatever. And I think I just realized part of why I would view that as acceptable: because the child would recognize his ancestry as having come through his mother and father, even if they were no longer around to raise him. That, of course, is a very different situation from what would be seen in most homosexual adoptions were the floodgates to be opened.

7 posted on 02/21/2004 8:58:42 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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