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Cynthia (clueless again) Tucker: Gay marriage: Why the fuss?
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 2.22.04 | Cynthia Tucker

Posted on 02/21/2004 7:26:50 PM PST by mhking

Like many other states, Georgia is in a dire budget crunch -- cutting money for health care for the poor, parks, college professors and state troopers. Though the state longs to get its school children out of the academic cellar, it is cutting funds that would shrink the size of classes and improve the climate for learning.

So what is so critical that it dominates debate at the Legislature this session instead? The issue that has consumed contentious hours of talk and testimony is gay marriage -- or, rather, "protecting" traditional marriage from same-sex unions. After public hearings that drew crowds of religious conservatives as well as gay activists, the Georgia Senate passed a bill calling for a state constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. (Georgia law already prohibits recognition of same-sex unions.) It awaits consideration in the Georgia House.

I admit that I'm puzzled by the intense focus on the prospect of gay marriage -- not just in Georgia but also in the White House, with President Bush threatening to throw his support behind a ban on same-sex marriage in the U.S. Constitution. The president, like the Georgia Legislature, would seem to have more pressing concerns: The federal budget is awash in red ink; Iraq is mired in turmoil; the vaunted economic "recovery" has left millions of Americans jobless. Bush believes a priority should be throwing obstacles in the way of gay unions?

What is it about the prospect of allowing same-sex couples the right to pledge fidelity, loyalty and love to each other -- as heterosexuals do -- that threatens the foundations of the republic?

For many religious conservatives, the issue is simple enough: Leviticus condemns homosexuality as an "abomination." But the guiding legal document of a pluralistic nation has no business recognizing one religious view over any other. Some denominations -- including my own, the United Church of Christ -- have no prohibition against same-sex marriages.

(A literal reading of the Bible, by the way, poses many a conundrum. Leviticus also orders capital punishment for homosexuals and adulterers.)

Many Americans view marriage only as an institution ordained by religion, but it is also recognized by civil authorities. While no church could ever be ordered to recognize or perform same-sex marriages, the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees full equality to all, should not block a courthouse marriage between two consenting adults.

But religion is just one consideration. Tradition is another. Even among many Americans who would not identify themselves as religious conservatives, there is a vague and unsettling fear of undermining the modern conception of marriage as a commitment between a man and a woman, especially when the institution is already in decline throughout the industrialized West.

The loosening of marriage bonds has taken place against a backdrop of rapid cultural and technological shifts; it has also struck every racial, demographic and religious segment of the population. Even among those who characterize themselves as born-again Christians, the rate of divorce is high, according to a 2001 survey by the Barna Research Group Ltd.

I understand the fears over the decline of marriage. Most psychologists agree that stable marriages are the best arrangement for children, and children reared in single-parent homes are more likely to suffer poor educational achievement and to be lured into drugs, early parenthood and crime.

But isn't that all the more reason to welcome gay marriage? At a time when marriage is rapidly losing its allure for so many heterosexuals, one of the most promising developments is the deep desire of so many gays to commit themselves to marriage, with all its rewards and sacrifices.

Gays and lesbians deserve the right to succeed -- or fail -- at marriage just like the rest of us. When it comes right down to it, a constitutional amendment won't save marriage. That can only be done by couples, regardless of gender, one marriage at a time.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilunion; gaymirage; marriage; subversives
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To: raloxk
Yeah, that's the ticket. They can't have children so they are not entitled to rights and protections. I mean, if we could just limit their contact with other people their kind would eventually die off wouldn't it? It would happen all the more quickly if we could just prevent them from being involved in the some kind of recognized monogamous relationship.

Damn them for being themselves and just trying to find love anyway.
41 posted on 02/23/2004 4:57:47 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: AmusedBystander
"May not be such a great idea to them after better than half have to start paying out for their "divorces.""

Sure, why not. A state recognized marriage for a gay couple should come with all of the perks, and downfalls, of a heterosexual one.

I have not seen a single cogent argument as to why gay people should not be allowed a recognized civil "marriage" (inasmuch as the government should be involved in the question of marriage in the first place).

42 posted on 02/23/2004 5:00:53 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith
They are not entitle to marry no. To do so would mean that homosexuality and hetrosexuality are equal from societies standpoint. If we value life, those two relationships cannot be equal.

I dont care who they love, but society has not since the begining of time recognized the equality in social value of homosexual and hetrosexual relationships. To do so would devalue the sanctity of life.
43 posted on 02/23/2004 5:03:26 PM PST by raloxk
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To: T.Smith
"Gay people forming civil unions is not going to destroy marriage. If anything it is going to reinforce the idea of monogamous commitment."

First of all are you arguing for civil unions or marriage, you dont seem to be able to make up your mind.

As for gay marriage destroying hetro-sexual marriage, you need to do some research on Sweden's experinmintation with gay marriage and the effect on hetro-sexual marriage and child bearing.

Gay relationships cannot further the continuation of the species, thus they cannot be equal in the eyes of society.

44 posted on 02/23/2004 5:07:59 PM PST by raloxk
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To: T.Smith
Please enlighten me on this line of work that puts you in contact with "scores" of gays and lesbians.

Retail visual merchandising.

And your wealth of knowledge that allows you to verbally attack me comes from where?

45 posted on 02/24/2004 3:25:33 AM PST by dansangel (*PROUD to be a knuckle-dragging, toothless, inbred, right-wing, Southern, gun-toting Neanderthal *)
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To: dansangel
"Retail visual merchandising"

WTH is that?

46 posted on 02/24/2004 6:03:47 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith
Fashion merchandising on the retail level - dressing mannequins, building visually attractive merchandise displays, etc.

I've been very patient with this "discussion." You have provided me with no opposing view based on personal experience or facts, just sarcasm and beratement. I have never been rude to anyone on FR, yet you continue to treat me rudely.

End of "discussion." Bye.
47 posted on 02/24/2004 8:58:20 AM PST by dansangel (*PROUD to be a knuckle-dragging, toothless, inbred, right-wing, Southern, gun-toting Neanderthal *)
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