[onedoug]

The ancient Hebrews channeling male sexuality into heterosexual marriage laid the cornerstone for Western civilization.

The antithesis is just that.

[Rokke]

Hey Andy, shaaaddddup

[King Black Robe]

Andrew has no real foundation to stand on.

[Grut]

Well, I am with Sullivan on this: however desirable or undesirable gay marriage is, it is up to the states to decide. Conservatives who are in favor of the Marriage Amendment are as guilty of anti-federalism as Liberals would be if they proposed an amendment mandating gay marriage.

[Rutles4Ever]

He is proposing to remove civil rights from one group of American citizens - and do so in the Constitution itself.

Gov't recognized marriage is NOT a civil right. A gov't issued LICENSE is required. You can't just up and marry if you want to marry a child or more than one person or a goat. It's a PRIVELEGE in secular and constitutional terms. A religiously recognized marriage is out of the realm of the gov't, but there are few churches that recognize gay marriages, and those are not entitled to gov't recognition.

[Betaille]

"The message could not be plainer: these citizens do not fully belong in America."

He has absolutely nothing with which to back this up. He is just using the most alarmist language possible out of desperation. And by the way how does this hurt the families of gay people?

[Soundman4x4]

Little Andy just wants Our President to agree with his ""lifestyle."" If Bush gets this country back to it's CHRISTIAN roots he will have no problem getting reelected.

[GiveEmDubya]

I wouldn't worry about him. I think he'll gain more people on this issue than he'll lose.

[beaversmom]

Sorry Mr. Sullivan. I agree with you on some things, but with this you can't spin it to suit your own agenda. Homosexuals started this assault--they drew first blood. Traditional marriage defenders are doing just that--they are defending what is in the best interest of this country.

[Mad Dawg]

Somebody has to say it:

Homosexuals are not being discriminated against. They are as free to marry a person of the opposite sex as anybody else is.

They are not free to marry a person of the same sex anymore than a person who doesn't like corners is free to draw a square without them. A square has to have corners to be a square. A marriage has to have two persons, one each of either sex, to be a marriage. Corners aren't enough to make a figure a square, and two persons, one each of either sex aren't enough to make a marriage. But without corners there is no square ... and so forth.

As it happens, some heterosexuals find themselves sexually attracted to people who are their spouses. This is not always the case. Kings often have not been permitted to marry those for whom they felt romantic affection. I wonder what per centage of all marriages in history were entirely at the choice of the couple who chose on the basis of affection. My guess is not many were like that.

But, it seems, for homosexuals, sexual attraction and affection are the most important thing. What they call marriage and what we know to be marriage are two very different things.

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

The president launched a war today against the civil rights of gay citizens and their families.

Andrew is simply wrong.

The secular religion of liberalism continues to attack the laws of this nation.

The flatheaded mayor of San Francisco breaks the laws of the state because liberalism protects him.

A rogue court in Massachussetts orders the legislature to make law.

Looks like it's high time for a revolution in this country.

When the rule of law starts to break down a shakeup of the troublemakers is far overdue.

Time to remove the bums who disobey their oaths of office!

If the silent majority were to get pissed enough to riot, the cathartic cultural cleansing that followed would be a work of art.

[MrB]

Sorry, Sullivan, the Constitution is no refuge for the likes of you leftists.

It rings hollow when you invoke it.

Leftists only feign respect for the Constitution when they try to use it to justify their consequence free abberant behavior - otherwise they treat it with utmost contempt and disdain.

They are nowhere to be found when it comes to respecting the Constitutional limitations on the powers of government and the rights of the individual over the rights of the state.

[Sister_T]

Here!

Some cheese to go with his WHINE!

You labelled this article right. Hissy-fit indeed! What a crybaby! Hey, Andrew! You have the right to marry. No one is stopping you from marrying a person of the OPPOSITE GENDER so stop your whining!

[Peach]

Andrew needs to understand, and I believe he does, that the radical gay agenda is all about recruiting our children and lowering the age of sexual consent.

Tammy Bruce's book The Death of Right and Wrong is a useful book to read regarding gay marriage, the gay agenda in our public schools and the leftists who promote them.

Bruce is a lesbian and former president of the Los Angeles chapter of NOW. She has long since left NOW and condemns them AND the radical gay agenda thoroughly in her book.

It is one of the best books I've ever read and explains what is wrong with the left and the radical gays. Bruce has worked with Congress and Phyllis Schafley on these matters and is currently a commentator for FNC.

Bruce feels the radical leftists and gays have a mental disease called malignant narcissism and explains how it is rooted in trauma that never attempts recovery. These individuals, instead of seeking psychological help, are focusing on social change. In other words, they want the rest of society to mirror their own hurt and pain.

She makes a very convincing case for the fact that an entire wing of politics is invested in the victim-hood of its constituency, the leaders of which are trying to work out their demons on society.

The book is shocking and details how the radical left and gays have espoused sexualizing our children and how supposedly mainstream supporters of those efforts have stated publicly that "Sex is not harmful to children...there are many ways even the smallest of children can partake in it" (page 193). As outrageous as this sounds, it is not some fringe group of marginalized pedophiles that want this evil perpetrated to rationalize their depravity, but rather the leaders of the "special interest" groups on the Left, sponsored by their friends in the media. Well-documented facts throughout the book reveal this agenda clearly.

This is a MUST read book in order to take on the left using their own words against them.

When mainstream America realizes what is going on, we will be more aware and able to stop this dangerous agenda from moving forward.

Sorry for the long post, but I cannot stress more strongly how important this issue is and how this book will help us fight this fight.

[hchutch]

Andrew Sullivan does some good things from time to time.

However, on this, he has IGNORED the fact that the whole issue did NOT spring up through the legislators elected by the people.

President Bush said very clearly that if the courts persisted, there would be no other option but to amend the Constitution. The activism of the Massachusetts Supreme Court and the defiance of the law by the city of San Francisco forced the President to take this step.

[anniegetyourgun]

If it is war, it should be noted that the homosexual activists and their elected friends and court officials started it. They are the ones promoting the upheaval.

[ChadGore]

Why is it that liberals only have "fightin' words" for their fellow Americans ?

So much liberal hate.

[ChadGore]

Why is it that liberals only have "fightin' words" for their fellow Americans ?

So much liberal hate.

[KingNo155]

Can someone please tell me what "civil rights" Gays are denied?

[zook]

"We have no alternative but to defend ourselves and our families from this attack. And we will."

Oh no! I think I hear the sound of sassaying off in the distance!