An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum

Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

[4CJ]

For information and discussion.

[facedown]

Making popcorn and pulling up a chair.

[MarcoPolo]

Excellent!

I've known about Nelson and several other black men who have the courage to stand up against PC history and remind us how it really happened for several years now. The PC crowd wants to ignore or even deny the existence of blacks in gray during the War. For those who may not know, another black Confederate activist, H.K. Edgerton, marches across the South every year to support respect for Confederate history, heritage and symbols.

[Indrid Cold]

Well there's something you don't see every day.

[4CJ]

Well, I guess I need to invite a few friends ;o)

[2banana]

If next, they have the grandson of a free black who owned slaves, I am going to faint!

[don-o]

Years ago, I visited the Cyclorama in Atlanta. I did not know much, but was beginning my life long interest in the War Between the States. I asked a tour guide if any blacks had fought for the Confederacy.

She looked at me like I had two heads and sputtered, "Of course not."

I have since learned more of the truth, and it is an ongoing experience.

Thanks for posting this.

[billbears]

"People ask why a black person would fight for the Confederacy. (It was) for the same damned reason a white Southerner did," Winbush explained.

Unfortunately it's probably going to be a few years until the truth comes out fully over the revisionism that's been forced upon us for years

[4CJ]

I wish I had known about it - I would have drove over to listen. But there are others like Mr. Winbush - Bob Harrison, H. K. Edgerton, Lee & Anthony Hervey to name a few. These men are proud of their ancestors, I along with them. We honour all those that served.

[Honcho]

"If you learn anything else today, don't be dumb."

Don't be dumb....don't be dumb...don't be dumb... OK Got it!

[Scott Mahrle]

Good to set the story straight about the flag. But for Mr. Winbush to say he would have fought alongside his grandfather strikes me as offensive, knowing what he knows now. Would he prefer the Confederacy had won the war? It is a fact that the war ended the immoral practice of slavery. And though some slaves were content with their conditions, this does not excuse the practice.

[4CJ]

I have since learned more of the truth, and it is an ongoing experience.

There are several books on the subject, stand watie can give you the name of one by Professor Blackerby (sp?). Also try Forgotten Confederates: An Anthology About Black Southerners by Charles Kelly Barrow, et. al., Black Southerners in Gray by Richard Rollins, and Black Southern Heritage (video) by Edward Smith and the above-mentioned Nelson Winbush.

[elbucko]

...another black Confederate activist, H.K. Edgerton, marches across the South every year to support respect for Confederate history, heritage and symbols.

A hundred years from now, if there is still a United States, black men in gray uniforms will be participants in Civil War battle reenactments. Companies of Confederate soldiers made up of both black and white participants, will be led onto the field by a black man in a gray uniform proudly holding the Confederate Battle Flag. No one will notice.

In a hundred years, but not now.

[TexConfederate1861]

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Thanks!

[Agnes Heep]

Patty Hearst fought for the SLA.

[TexConfederate1861]

Hey there pard....haven't seen you posting in a while.
Good to see ya !

Waiting patiently for the "brigade" to make an appearance!

[4CJ]

But for Mr. Winbush to say he would have fought alongside his grandfather strikes me as offensive, knowing what he knows now. Would he prefer the Confederacy had won the war?

Considering that Mr. Winbush states that his grandfather fought for the Confederacy and 'had plenty of chances to make a break for freedom, but never did', and that he [Mr. Winbush] 'would shudder to think what would happen if somebody tried to do something to this particular flag' [that draped his grandfather's coffin], I would guess that he does not consider the Confederacy offensive.

Regarding your latter comment, I would think that his statements would answer that, but only Mr. Winbush could answer for certain.

[EagleMamaMT]

Read later.

[crz]

One of the first slave owners ever in the colonies was..you guessed it! A BLACK MAN! Little known or reported fact in our history..always overlooked by the commie news media and extortionists.

[stainlessbanner]

Honorable Nelson Winbush ping!