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To: SauronOfMordor
Two things in this letter:
  1. Ms Waxman is not really honest about Gibson and Shoah denial. Yeah, Gibson senior is a denier (which to me is insane... I have seen so much evidence with my own eyes, including stuff that is not public, that it really bothers me when people try to deny that the Nazis tried to exterminate Jews, and that if it hadn't been for losing the war, they might have succeeded).

    But Mel is not a denier. Every time he's been asked, he has said that the Shoah is fact, that it is undeniable. He condemns it in unmistakeable words. Yet the writer left that out, letting readers draw the implication that Mel is a holocaust denier because he won't savage his father for teh edification of TV voyeurs.

  2. Is it just me or is their something very weird about a Jewish writer writing an article accusing Gibson of anti-Semitism, and saying -- as I take the main thrust of this article -- "the most influential people here are all Jews and they will punish him for offending us..." I mean, what's next? Are they gonna form a mob and drag him to the authorities, screaming "Crucify him"?

For the record, I don't believe most Jews, in Hollywood or out, are looking to harm Gibson for this film. I do know many Jews who have heard the press's drumbeat of propaganda on this, and who are legitimately fearful that the film will lead to anti-Semitism.

I think SauronOfMordor is right in framing this as, not the Jewish/Christian conflict that the writer Waxman tries to incite, but as an issue of the Hollywood LEFT, which has an established religion of militant fundamentalist atheism, against normal people of whatever faith.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

236 posted on 02/25/2004 10:00:35 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I think SauronOfMordor is right in framing this as, not the Jewish/Christian conflict that the writer Waxman tries to incite, but as an issue of the Hollywood LEFT, which has an established religion of militant fundamentalist atheism, against normal people of whatever faith.

Sure. Leftists who make a career out of creating difficulties between groups of people, see a target of opportunity.

Leftists are becoming alarmed at what I would call an increasing understanding between Christians and Jews; let's face it, it won't be Christians running out of theaters after seeing "The Passion" looking to propagate such violence.

These types are simply afraid because they have been promoting the most shameful of lies.......that Christian religious groups are the enemy of Jews, when indeed it has been secular leftists who have sought to suppress the expression of any form of religious faith.

The Passion, and Christians potentially inciting some anti-Semitic uprising in this country?..........don't make me laugh.

What I see is a group of cynical, exploitative scheming leftists seeking to create a rift between what are natural allies.

Where will the leftists be if some person tries to impose some new Holocaust, where religious freedom is subject to the depraved reasoning of the new old religionists?

On the side of those trying to impose such a tyranny, of course, and a couple hundred yards downfield of me and a rifle, where they belong.

253 posted on 02/25/2004 11:22:11 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Criminal Number 18F
These people suffer from a profound spiritual sickness, that which truly believes a suicide bomber is some kind of 'hero' worthy of admiration and respect because he/ she is standing up to 'Zionist/ American' global designs.

They live in a world where abortionists, euthanasiasts, and other proponents of a culture of death are the vanguards of a new, 'superior' morality.

256 posted on 02/25/2004 11:38:32 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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