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Sacks, 'Boys are Stupid' Designer Mix it up on CNBC
MND Newswire ^ | 2/26/04 | Pat Cangelosi

Posted on 02/26/2004 12:29:29 PM PST by PercivalWalks

There was no love lost between a crusading radio talk show host and the businessman who is the target of the boycott he organized as the two debated on CNBC's "Bullseye" yesterday.

Todd Goldman, the designer of the controversial "Boys are Stupid--Throw Rocks at Them" products, defended his work as harmless humor. Glenn Sacks, a men's and fathers' issues columnist and radio talk show host, criticized the products as being part of a male bashing culture which ignores boys' educational struggles.

The battle between them has been covered by hundreds of television and radio stations, and over 300 publications in half a dozen countries, including TIME Magazine, Forbes, the Washington Post, and the U.K. Guardian.

Goldman says the publicity for his products is unprecedented and has helped sales. Men's activists say Sacks' campaign, which began in mid-December, has probably generated more publicity than the men's movement has ever received over one issue.

CNBC host Dylan Ratigan clearly sided with the Florida businessman, whose company, David & Goliath, has seen its best-selling products knocked out of over 90% of their retail outlets in less than two months. Ratigan opened the show by displaying pictures of "Boys are Stupid--Throw Rocks at Them" shirts and asked Sacks "what's the issue? They're having a good time here."

Sacks countered Ratigan, noting "yes, it's humor, but it's adult humor being played out on little boys. Twelve year-old boys don't get the humor, but they feel the insult." Sacks, a former high school teacher, tied his campaign to what he called the "boy crisis in education," noting "our boys have fallen way behind in school all levels K-12--to go to school and see shirts that say 'Boys are Stupid' rubs salt in the wound."

When Goldman was asked if he had an "obligation to consider the impact" of the products on young boys, he answered "no" and claimed that he does not sell to kids but "we sell 16, 17, 18 year-olds, you know, college students." Sacks said that Goldman has been quoted in newspapers as saying that the "Boys are Stupid" products are his "top selling junior line."

Goldman says his company sells many "positive shirts, including ones with the slogans 'It's all about me' and 'Chicks Rule!'"

Goldman boasted of the publicity he has received because of the campaign and claimed his sales are way up. The host asked Sacks if he believed his campaign has backfired, since it has given his target so much attention. Sacks noted that publicity for the target of a campaign is a necessary byproduct of any consumer boycott, and said "we've knocked 'Boys are Stupid' products out of 3,500 stores--that has to have an effect."

Goldman, less accustomed to the media spotlight than his debate opponent, fidgeted and swung his arms continually during the live interview, and clumsily claimed that the "Boys are Stupid" products have lost only "5%" of their retail outlets. When questioned by the incredulous host Goldman mentioned a few of the chains which have pulled the products and noted "yes I guess it has been over 3,000." The host replied "Todd, that's an awful lot of retail stores."

Sacks told Goldman "I can't even find the 'Boys are Stupid' products anywhere. I can't continue the campaign because we can't even find anyone who still has the stuff."

The host ended the show by telling Goldman "congratulations on the success of your business."

Earlier in the week nationally syndicated radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh defended the campaign, criticizing San Francisco Chronicle feminist columnist Jane Ganahl for her attack on Sacks and his supporters in her recent column Will you please shut up and get a life, already? Limbaugh noted:

"Can you imagine if a company put out a line of T-shirts that said, 'Black people are goobers, drop anvils on their heads' or 'Homosexuals are stupid, throw rocks at them'? And can you imagine the San Francisco Chronicle doing a story on how cute these T-shirts are?...Turn it around and imagine shirts suggesting the following: 'Girls lie and will break your heart. Throw rocks at them' or 'Little girls are not soft and cuddly, they are mean and vicious and will destroy you.' Can you imagine a newspaper doing a cute little headline and story on how wonderfully cute little boy fashion has become? I doubt it."

Sacks, who explained the motives behind his campaign in his opinion column Why I Launched the Campaign Against 'Boys are Stupid' Products in the Los Angeles Daily News, told his audience Sunday that Ganahl is "clueless about the issues which affect half the population--males."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boycottnbc; boys; cnbc; culturewar; doublestandard; fascistfashion; fashion; hatespeech; malebashing; mediabias; nbc; pc; politicallycorrect; savethemales; sexism; tshirt; violence
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1 posted on 02/26/2004 12:29:31 PM PST by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks
All animals are equal...

...but some are more equal that others.

2 posted on 02/26/2004 12:35:58 PM PST by atomicpossum (Only Hillary Will Lick Bush in '04!)
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To: PercivalWalks
"Goldman says the publicity for his products is unprecedented and has helped sales. Men's activists say Sacks' campaign, which began in mid-December, has probably generated more publicity than the men's movement has ever received over one issue."

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Maybe they're in cahoots. ;-)
3 posted on 02/26/2004 12:36:00 PM PST by ahayes
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To: PercivalWalks
When Goldman was asked if he had an "obligation to consider the impact" of the products on young boys, he answered "no"

Goldman Is Stupid. Throw Rocks At Him.

4 posted on 02/26/2004 12:36:14 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: PercivalWalks
T-Shirt slogan writers are stupid, drop anvils on their heads.

Rush's comments were basically my thoughts on the subject. I am more concerned about the ominous double standards than the content of the stupid t-shirts. It's an every increasing slippery slope of disrespect for males and particularly whites.

5 posted on 02/26/2004 12:37:23 PM PST by edeal
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To: PercivalWalks
Girls are goobers, drop boys on them.
6 posted on 02/26/2004 12:38:02 PM PST by Enterprise ("Do you know who I am?")
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To: PercivalWalks
I'm a woman and I say it's time to put a stop to the male bashing we see in society today.

My most obnoxious TV commercial is the one where the son discovers he's been accepted to an "ivy league" college and the STUUUPID father starts hocking silver, selling his car, and brings in a Russian guy to rent their spare bedroom. Of course his brilliant wife has just applied for a home loan to pay the bills.

SICK SICK SICK! We should all revolt. Boys are being victimized by the radically "femanized" left wing!
7 posted on 02/26/2004 12:39:55 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: Humidston
I thought it was a funny commercial (stupid, but funny)
8 posted on 02/26/2004 12:41:33 PM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: PercivalWalks
"Can you imagine if a company put out a line of T-shirts that said..."

The media would fully support a Palestinian novelty garment maker if he sold shirts that said "Jews are evil, throw rocks at them".

9 posted on 02/26/2004 12:44:11 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: atomicpossum
Personally, I think there's a whole lot better and more important things that this Sacks guy should be worried about. The t-shirt is funny. I would laugh if my daughter had one. And to claim that this could damage the self-esteem of 12 year old boys is ridiculous. My 7 year old son would get the joke. As a white male, I don't really feel oppressed. Unlike Sacks, I have a sense of humor.
10 posted on 02/26/2004 12:46:32 PM PST by LegionofDorkness
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To: PercivalWalks
Maybe those 3,500 stores will substitute this tee shirt design!


11 posted on 02/26/2004 12:52:47 PM PST by Seeking the truth (Some oldies/newbies are really full of themselves, aren't they?)
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To: atomicpossum
It's only a few years before radical extremist shirts like this will be carried by the department stores:

"Class War - We have found new homes for the rich"


12 posted on 02/26/2004 12:56:09 PM PST by weegee (Election 2004: Re-elect President Bush... Don't feed the trolls.)
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To: PercivalWalks
Goldman says his company sells many "positive shirts, including ones with the slogans 'It's all about me' and 'Chicks Rule!'"

I can only shake my head. "It's all about Me!" and "Chicks Rule!" are the positive slogans. Oh, boy.

13 posted on 02/26/2004 12:57:20 PM PST by freedomluvr1778
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To: PercivalWalks
Sacks countered Ratigan, noting "yes, it's humor, but it's adult humor being played out on little boys. Twelve year-old boys don't get the humor, but they feel the insult."

I am an adult. I don't get the humor. I am insulted.

14 posted on 02/26/2004 1:01:37 PM PST by grellis (Che cosa ha mangiato?)
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To: PercivalWalks
My fondest hope is that Todd Goldman will one day show up on my tv in the middle of the night....doing cheesy infomercials.

15 posted on 02/26/2004 1:05:37 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: freedomluvr1778
He should be in politics. NOT!!! Positive shirts my rear end.
16 posted on 02/26/2004 1:06:45 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: PercivalWalks
http://www.davidandgoliathtees.com/new/lines/default.asp?category_id=1
17 posted on 02/26/2004 1:08:28 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Humidston
Point on Humidston! I am also sickened by the constant barrage of slings and arrows hurled at men. I have a father, grandfathers, uncles, male cousins and friends whom I adore and it breaks my heart to see them berated and belittled as if they were nothing.

In addition to the home loan commercial, the next two on my list are the Sure commercial where the woman drives up to change a tire for her stranded man. Her attitude toward him is one of complete condescension and incredulity at his lack of skills and intelligence. The other is the Jif commercial of the father sitting in the living room making the peanut butter sandwich when his young daughter walks in. She asks why he makes the sandwich the way he does and when he tells her "because that's the way my Dad did it and I always wanted to be exactly like my Dad," her response is "that's ridiculous." Seconds later she is eating a sandwich made the same way but has bitten the middle out of it rather than eating from the top. It's like slapping someone in the face and then offering them an ice cream so they'll feel better.

18 posted on 02/26/2004 1:27:01 PM PST by Donaeus (...In spite of all the lies that some may hurl, CHRIST is the only hope of all the world...)
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To: LegionofDorkness
Give me a break - you are pretty shallow if you dont think this is a smite on boys. Wake up there is a culture war going on and if you are a conservative you wouldnt be agreeing with imbeciles who put this trash out there. You probably let your kid watch MTV and surf the internet while your not around too.
19 posted on 02/26/2004 1:29:43 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: PercivalWalks
But I would get in trouble for making shirts that said:
"Girls are B*tches, F*** 'em.

(tongue planted firmly in cheek, mind you.)

TS
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20 posted on 02/26/2004 1:36:39 PM PST by Tanniker Smith
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