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If It Could Happen to Churchill... [Andrew Sullivan contemplates a Bush loss in '04]
Time Magazine ^ | Monday, March 8, 2004 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 03/01/2004 6:25:36 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer

If It Could Happen to Churchill...


Could it befall Bush? Why a wartime leader's success can be his downfall


By ANDREW SULLIVAN

Wartime leaders have always faced the worst fear: defeat in battle. But in democracies at least, war leaders also confront another danger: success. The qualities that make for great statesmanship in wartime — determination, a single focus on victory, a black-and-white conviction of who is friend or foe — can often seem crude or overbearing when peace comes around. The most dramatic example of this in Western history is Winston Churchill. It is no exaggeration to say that without him, Britain may well have been destroyed by Hitler. He was the difference between victory and defeat. But almost the minute that victory was declared, the voters turned on their hero. He lost the postwar election. Even more striking, he lost it in one of the biggest landslides in Britain's parliamentary history. He wasn't just defeated. He was buried.

I wonder if the lesson of Churchill now haunts the office of Bush political strategist Karl Rove. For something not completely dissimilar seems to be happening to George W. Bush. Since just after the capture of Saddam, Bush's ratings have been slumping. And this is less surprising than it appears. The paradox of the war against terrorism is that the more the President succeeds, the more politically vulnerable he gets. The fewer the terrorist incidents, the more remote the fear, the less necessary the war seems and the more dispensable the war President appears. If he responds to this by insisting that the enemy is still powerful and dangerous, he runs the risk of seeming to concede that he hasn't managed to curtail the threat. Or, worse perhaps, it seems as if he's whipping up fear and panic for his own electoral advantage. And after the failures of intelligence with respect to weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Bush's credibility on unknown threats is already eroded.

Here's what a really smart Democratic contender could say to the President this fall: "Thank you, Mr. President, for your leadership in difficult times. You made some tough decisions, and we are safer as a result. But the very qualities that made you a perfect pick for the war so far are the very ones that make you less effective from now on. You are too polarizing a figure to bring real peace to Iraq. You are too unpopular overseas to allow European governments to cooperate fully in the attempt to hunt down terrorists. And your deep unpopularity in half the country makes it impossible for you to make the necessary compromises that the country needs domestically. Thanks for all you've done, but bye-bye."

An effective line, don't you think? Don't get me wrong. I'm not endorsing this position. I think the war on terrorism is far from over, and Bush's toughness is a vital part of the struggle. But he's deeply vulnerable because of these trends. The British people ejected Churchill not because they disapproved of his war but because they didn't think he was the man to lead them in peacetime. Churchill's opponent in 1945, Clement Attlee, was, like John Kerry today, no heavyweight. In Churchill's words, Attlee was a "a modest man who has much to be modest about." But he still crushed Churchill at the polls. The first President Bush faced the same problem. With the Gulf War and the cold war over, voters wanted a domestic, ingratiating figure to lead them in the 1990s. Enter smooth-talking Bill Clinton. More than a decade later, John Kerry and the Democrats have opened up a lead in the polls.

The other Churchill parallel is equally unnerving. Churchill was a Tory as much as the current Bush is a conservative. But during wartime, Churchill expanded government to mobilize the country to fight Hitler. By doing so, Churchill helped legitimize Big Government. So the Labour government that succeeded him was the most left-wing in Britain's history. It favored high taxes, nationalized industries and created socialized medicine. The Tories, because they had backed Big Government in wartime, had little credibility in opposing these policies. Similarly, Bush has expanded government more aggressively than any President since L.B.J. (another war leader). Vast new military and security spending has been accompanied by a bank-breaking new entitlement in Medicare. When Bush now criticizes Kerry on spending and the size of government, he has little credibility with the voters. And so the chances of a very liberal Democratic Administration have escalated.

That's the conservative nightmare. Bush wins the war. The Democrats win what looks like a postwar election. The government stays big, but taxes are raised to pay for it. Maybe it won't happen. But if it does, one man will be responsible. George W. Bush: architect of a liberal takeover.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; gwb2004
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You know, if you can overlook the fact that this guy is a raging kook, he actually has some interesting things to say.
1 posted on 03/01/2004 6:25:38 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Monday AM sodomy bump.
2 posted on 03/01/2004 6:26:26 AM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Wishful thinking by Sullivan who charishes his homosexuality more than anything.
3 posted on 03/01/2004 6:29:12 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Dang, if you aren't always right....
4 posted on 03/01/2004 6:31:58 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
The sheeple feel their way through life and the future isn't a concern if the threat has been forgotten. Churchill was a victim of his sucess and the leftist media will shill for the dems shamelessly this cycle, a close election decided by less than seven electoral votes.
5 posted on 03/01/2004 6:33:02 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
This essay, which is certainly useful in reminding everyone not to take Bush's reelection for granted, fails to note the fundamental difference between the American system in which people vote separately for President, senators and representatives. In England's parliamentry system, no one votes for prime minister, but for the local member. Oh, one knows one is voting for a party - typically Tory or Labour since the collapse of the Liberals (Whigs) after WWI -- but one actually votes for the local candidate. No such thing as divided government in England: the party that controls Parliament determines the Prime Minister.
6 posted on 03/01/2004 6:36:26 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
He will go the way of David Brock into obscurity, he embarrasses his self each time he pens, but is too caught up in his own slime to realize.
7 posted on 03/01/2004 6:42:08 AM PST by boomop1
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Andrew is pouting.
8 posted on 03/01/2004 6:42:54 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: boomop1
Sounds about right to me.
9 posted on 03/01/2004 6:43:19 AM PST by ECM
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To: ECM
Time is no longer relevant.
10 posted on 03/01/2004 6:49:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Always Right
It's more like charishing his elite status with NY Manhattanites, and east coast snobs.

Like all of the Presidents so-called "friends" in "journalism" and Bush's so called "base", he jumps out of the foxhole, when the fight gets tough.

The complaints of Bush being too conservative or not conservative enough ring hollow, and tend to be simple contrarianism.

This election is about the men who are running, who they are, their character and their medal.

War is uncomfortable, as is the re-alignment of US relationships abroad.

Tying to return to pre-9/11 feelings comfort, and yearning for a President who makes no waves, leaves pots boiling, and turns to the UN instead of making an actual decision,
is a comforting thought to elites.

But is illogical, emotional, and utopian minded.

As is all liberal thinking.



11 posted on 03/01/2004 6:49:22 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Andy seems to have forgotten that the war is still on. Churchill wasn't ousted in the middle of WWII.
12 posted on 03/01/2004 6:53:01 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: CatoRenasci
Still, everyone knew what the outcome would be if they voted Labour-- Attlee campaigned strongly as the liberal he was. He wanted the election to be a referendum on socialist change. I think the British also thought Winston hadn't properly prepared a post-war Europe plan of political and physical rebuilding (as some say about Iraq).
13 posted on 03/01/2004 6:55:24 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: CatoRenasci
one actually votes for the local candidate

More than that, the British economy by middle of '45 was bankrupt with high inflation and shortages and the rest. To make an analogy between that dread state of affairs and the current state of the U.S. economy would be quite a reach. We all know it's mostly the state of the economy that will dictate whether an incumbent President will be thrown out of office or not.

14 posted on 03/01/2004 6:55:37 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: tbpiper
Tell that to the sheeple. Is WOT or Iraq the top issue? You know the answer.
15 posted on 03/01/2004 6:56:18 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: roses of sharon
Sullivan's tale is cautionary, but there are inherent weaknesses in a Kerry candidacy that Sullivan hasn't addressed. Bush will address them, however.

That's why Sullivan's analogy is cautionary, but somewhat wide of the mark.

In short, John Kerry, you are no Clement Atlee.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

16 posted on 03/01/2004 6:57:50 AM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "John Kerry: all John F., no Kennedy..." Click on my pic!)
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To: tbpiper
Well, part of the point is that while most of us don't think the war is over, many on the left and even some moderates, DO think the war is over and we can go back to the police tactics that worked so well < /sarcasm> for the Clinton regime.
17 posted on 03/01/2004 7:02:46 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: mosel-saar-ruwer
Here is Sullivan's flawed premise:

The British people ejected Churchill not because they disapproved of his war but because they didn't think he was the man to lead them in peacetime.

We are not in peacetime!!!

18 posted on 03/01/2004 7:03:13 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Always Right

But, hey, Andy...there's an up side for you because if Bush loses, you can marry your boyfriend. I'm sure that didn't color this wishful-thinking piece. (Why does anyone continue to read this pervert?)
19 posted on 03/01/2004 7:03:59 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Take a look at their circulation.
20 posted on 03/01/2004 7:13:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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