[janetgreen]

It's still a cloaked amnesty, no matter how they try to dress it up. It shouldn't even be considered, let alone dressed up. It is estimated that 70% of Americans are strongly against this. Who is President Bush representing, 30% of America? That wasn't in the deal when we elected him.

[Iron Matron]

Immigrants who want to do the jobs americans dont want to do - should work for their welfare by picking up the garbage from our roads, and helping america recycle by doing the dirty, expensive job of sorting our trash.

Recycling is expensive. With immigrant-run recycle centers, we could clean our environment and help immigrants keep their dignity by WORKING FOR the opportunity they are currently handed!

Im for NO immigration of any kind, but if they want in - they ought to not only be humble but REALLY do the job americans dont want to do!

PS the RNC keeps bugging me because my donations have lapsed. They are not listening to my answers to their correspondance: Bush gives up amnesty or he gives up my money _ HIS CHOICE!

[Cold Heat]

Administration officials are treading carefully on the concept of local enforcement, but supporters of the Norwood and Sessions bills are interpreting some of their recent comments to mean they might be open to the idea.

Certainly they are open to the idea.

The president said "we must strengthen control of the borders!"

This is but posturing by the lawmakers, and is the norm.

This bill is hardly in it's infancy as of yet.

[Regulator]

*yawn* Smoke screen. Local police have always had authority to detain suspected illegal aliens. Court case after court case has supported that; in the early 70's, it was commonplace in the Southwest to see a local cop calling in the BP vans for a car that had just been stopped.

The only reason the practice ever stopped was because of chanting from the Ford Foundation supported reconquista groups, who just repeated over and over again that "eeemeegration is a federal matter, the local police have no jurisdiction". Nonsense, but they got a lot of cops to believe it.

We can talk about guest worker programs when:

• Those already here have to go home to apply
• No family reunification, since that's a subterfuge to get Anchor Babies in
• The Anchor Baby fraud is ended
• Affirmative Action for the amorphous group known as "hispanics" is ended
• No state or federal welfare benefits of any kind
• Working conditions and labor rates are IDENTICAL or better than those offered to citizens, and are congruent with existing labor laws
• Unemployment rate is below 2%, and citizen welfare recipients are all employed

In other words, end the Welfare State, end the Ethnic Identity Inequality which disenfranchises Americans, and prevent the hiring of foreign nationals to engage in wage competition, and then we'll talk.

Since the likelihood of any of these happening is ZERO, I know that I'm safe in suggesting them as a precondition for a "guest worker" program. But if the Senators truly wanted to use this issue to get something, they could insist on it.

[MissAmericanPie]

"Latinos very much support law enforcement, which is why we think making police officers immigration agents is a terrible idea," said Cecilia Munoz, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Raza"

Now there is something to make you spit. wonder if Cecilia was at the Veterans cemetray in Cali when her La Raza group decided to beat up 70 year old veterans on Memorial Day for displaying the American Flag? Open the deportation of illegals to government regulated private enterprise. Some savvy Americans, layed off because of outsourcing or illegals running their wages down, will appreciate the opportunity for such a start up business as driving illegals to the border.