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To: jimt
but you two are doing a great job stating my position.

What, is "eat free" the new mantra of the anti-immigration contingent.

While it may be true that social services are indeed strained in some areas, the seasonal nature of the employment, the desire for work and a life made them cross with only the cloths on their backs.

Those same services still have a majority American citizen customer base and you know it.

Bush's proposal does in fact control this illegal alien problem, by tying the entry to a bonded job offer that has been vetted.

The line for these work visa's will be long, but the line will be in Mexico!

At the same time this is implemented, the ones left on the street with no paperwork will be disappearing as they leave a now hostile environment for a undocumented worker without a visa or a job.

Control of the employer is what this idea really does.

34 posted on 03/02/2004 9:52:04 AM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: wirestripper
What, is "eat free" the new mantra of the anti-immigration contingent.

I'm not anti-immigration, I'm anti-parasite !

Eliminate the welfare hammock (completely) for these folks, and most of my antipathy towards illegals ceases.

While it may be true that social services are indeed strained in some areas, the seasonal nature of the employment, the desire for work and a life made them cross with only the cloths on their backs.

So many errors in a single statement make it hard to respond.

Services are more than "strained" in some areas, American citizens are being crowded out by hordes of illegals.

"Seasonal" employment my rear end ! These folks come and stay, and bring their families. They put down roots, tapping every public benefit they run across, and at their income level, that's a lot of them.

Would that it was their desire for "work" that made them cross. It is in fact their desire to live better for less work that makes many come. Their "income" is substantially supplemented, else they couldn't live here, period. How do you support a family of five or six on ten bucks an hour? With state, local and federal subsidies, that's how.

And those come out of my pocket, and I'm damn tired of it.

Bush's proposal does nothing more than legalize those who're here, and act as a magnet for millions more to arrive, to be subsidized by taxpayers like me. It's a gift of taxpayer subsidized employees to business, and it sucks.

35 posted on 03/02/2004 2:04:39 PM PST by jimt
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