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To: elfman2
Then your accusation implies that you think that any potential abuse of Congress’s power to wage war makes the founding fathers aggressors, and abuse of the “general welfare” and the “interstate commerce” clauses makes the founding father’s socialist. Brilliant…

Congress' exercising their specifically inumerated power to levy tariifs is not an abuse of power, and you know it. Nice try, but you look like a blathering fool now.

Nonsense, our independence and security is rooted in our freedom and courage to defend it from shortterm gain. If you believe that the “highest paid jobs are going overseas” you’re falling for the deception of our political opposition.

Ha! Ha! You're funny! What do you propose we defend uour freedom with, once our mfg. base has been wiped out? Defend it from short-term gain? You mean like the short-term gain of trading our manufacturing and technology base for some short-term cheap labor bucks? Try steering smart bombs with hamburgers. The US is now 100% dependent on Chinese suppliers of high magnetics for smart bomb servo components. The patent for the most efficient magnetic production methods was sold off to the Chinese, and the Americans who used to make our smart-bomb servos were given a pink slip for their patriotism. Angry jobless people are not a political deception, they are a reality from which you are hiding.

Opportunity to compete.

But they are not competing, they are cheating. India has a slave-based economy wherein basic services are provided by people who live in shacks and are denied an education. That, and currency manipulations makes indian labor costs 1/10 the labor costs here. Real competition would imply a productivity and intelligence contest. That ain't happening.

this thread is about India and Taiwan, not China

This thread is also about outsourcing and foreign trade, a picture in which China looms large.

110 posted on 03/04/2004 6:51:27 AM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
"Congress' exercising their specifically inumerated power to levy tariifs is not an abuse of power, and you know it. Nice try, but you look like a blathering fool now."

Then by your own feelings, Congress' exercising their specifically inumerated power to declare war in an unwise way is not an abuse of power. You need to learn to control your emotions.

" You mean like the short-term gain of trading our manufacturing and technology base for some short-term cheap labor bucks? "

This reminds me of the end of the worlders crying here that Armageddon was coming at the turn of the millennium. Just like how in every generation there were people who feel the end of the world was in there times, every generation of Americans thought that tariffs were the answer to international trade and competition. Same panic, same song, different day.

People at a certain level of desperation are always prone to being called slaves by people unable to succeed in even in an environment of great excess.

" This thread is also about outsourcing and foreign trade, a picture in which China looms large "

No, because of China’s international aggression, all the rules change. A discussion of training dogs can’t be applied to razing a tiger. If you can’t transcend your knee jerk emotionalism to see that, start another tread on China.

114 posted on 03/04/2004 7:20:47 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head; elfman2
Worth repeating:

Angry jobless people are not a political deception, they are a reality from which you are hiding.

117 posted on 03/04/2004 7:51:17 AM PST by null and void (Pay no attention to the 1's and 0's behind the voting booth curtain, and they'll return the favor...)
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