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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
"By your your simple-minded reasoning, congress would be abusing power if they declared war for any reason."

Let me make this simple.

1) I said that people (like you) were promoting the abuse of tariffs.
2) You say that since the founding fathers designed Congress with the power to impose tariff, criticism of that abuse power amounts to criticism of the founding fathers. Remember?
3) I pointed out that Congresses could abuse any power, specifically the power to declare war. And just because they were given that power, it does not make any abuse of it justified and any criticism of it a criticism of the founding fathers.

The rest of your post is dependent of that.

This is not an article regarding unique Chinese trade issues.

I don’t have time to continue a discussion based on out of control emotions.

123 posted on 03/04/2004 9:05:57 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Let me make this simple.

So far, everything you have said is simple.

1) I said that people (like you) were promoting the abuse of tariffs.

Imposing tariffs is not an abuse, it is an inumerated, traditional power of our congress. "Abuse" is an opinion of yours that has no basis in fact. It is a fantasy. I will go back and forth with you forever, if necessary. The bottom line is you are flat out wrong. I have history and the exact wording of the constitution on my side, you have nothing but faith in failed economic theory.

2) You say that since the founding fathers designed Congress with the power to impose tariff, criticism of that abuse power amounts to criticism of the founding fathers. Remember?

No, you said that tariffs are an abuse. You have yet to prove that the imposition of a tariff is an abuse in this case. Clearly it is not, it is an inumerated power.

3) I pointed out that Congresses could abuse any power, specifically the power to declare war. And just because they were given that power, it does not make any abuse of it justified and any criticism of it a criticism of the founding fathers.

You are confusing use with abuse. You are railing against tariffs, claiming any tariff is an abuse. If I am wrong, then why don't you give me an example of a tariff that is not an abuse? I'll bet you can't, because in your "free" trade dogmatic mind, any tariff at all is an abuse. If that is the case, then why is the power plainly inumerated in Article I, section 8 of the US constitution. I guess you think the powers listed there are just for laughs, huh?

This is not an article regarding unique Chinese trade issues.

Ha! Ha! That's not what you said. I mentioned China, and you said it was not about China at all. You're just embarassed because the article is in fact about China.

I don’t have time to continue a discussion based on out of control emotions.

You are making baseless charges about emotion and running because you have lost the argument.

One more time: If the imposition of tariffs to equalize labor rates is an abuse, give me an example of a tariff that is not an abuse.

132 posted on 03/04/2004 12:38:22 PM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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