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To: jpsb
"And Oh bye the way, the reason people are called Marxist is because of Karl Marx who is not just "one misguided communist", but the principle person responsible for the development of Marxistism/communist. "

Right, two diametrically opposed economic systems. Communism and Capitalism. One corrupt and evil and the other good. Communism maximizes government control of the economy, Capitalism minimizes government control of the economy.

Yet you, (the “conservative”) say that expanding government control of trade is “capitalist”. Explain that.

" I have the feeling you are a teenage girl."

I suspect that you’re an aging old man verging on senility. Evident By how you somehow your transposed “mother” to “grandmother. If you were together, you’d click on my name and read about me before contradicting that.

175 posted on 03/06/2004 7:43:50 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Right, two diametrically opposed economic systems. Communism and Capitalism. One corrupt and evil and the other good. Communism maximizes government control of the economy, Capitalism minimizes government control of the economy.

Close but not entirely correct, capitalism without government supervision is really not a very good system either. It is an efficient system but does not do an acceptable job of distributing wealth. Capitalism worked well in the US because the US introduced labor laws, allowed labor to collective bargain and broke up corporations when they became to powerful. Without such government intervention capitalism would be a crueler master then Marxism.

Yet you, (the “conservative”) say that expanding government control of trade is “capitalist”. Explain that.

Gladly, first what we have to day is far from free trade, if it were in fact free trade then I might be willing to at least give it a try, but it ain't so I use the term "free trade" to describe what I consider the insane trade policies of our country. But even if it were I would still object as a conservative because adoption of free trade policies denies the government of it constitutionally prescribed method of raising revenue, tariffs. Without tariff revenue government adopted the progressive income taxes a source of funding.

Tariffs were a very effective way of funding government. Government could only grow as large as market forces would allow. If tariffs were to high, revenue would fall and government would have to lower them. Tariffs also limited the size of government. As a conservative letting market forces control both government size and government revenue appeal to me.

Tariffs also serve to protect and encourage domestic production which makes the nation less dependent on foreign sources. This is a highly desirable thing, particularly in time of war. And lastly if the capitalistic system that is funded and protected by tariffs does an equatable job of distributing wealth then the nation has a large, prosperous working and middle class that is far less likely to adopt a socailist/marxist form of government then a two tier third world soceity.

178 posted on 03/06/2004 8:20:15 AM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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