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Al Qaeda`s Neo-Nazi Connections
Jewish Press ^ | 2/25/2004 | William Grim

Posted on 03/02/2004 5:42:05 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 03/02/2004 5:42:05 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 03/02/2004 5:42:43 AM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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If the FBI is indeed reopening part of the OKC investigation (into undisclosed information about contacts with a group of neo-Nazi bankrobbers), the Muslim connection is going to come out loud and clear.

Of course, the judge has already decided to proceed with Nichol's state trial without waiting for this investigation, so I suspect an effort is going to be made to keep it covered up.
3 posted on 03/02/2004 5:45:56 AM PST by livius
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To: SJackson
Sadly SJ, so many people want the 30 sec soundbite to latch on to. To fully understand how deep and insidious this war is , people have to think.

That's what makes me so nervous about this election. Kerry will probably doom us.

4 posted on 03/02/2004 5:55:10 AM PST by marty60
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To: SJackson
Nothing to see here.

Lets move along.

Dead men (McVeigh) tell no tales.

5 posted on 03/02/2004 6:01:05 AM PST by Agent Smith (perhaps this will help)
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In 1995 it would not have been unreasonable for an FBI investigator to give Strassmeir`s attempted purchase of a Boeing 747 mere passing notice. In light of 9/11, however, Strassmeir`s aborted airliner purchase gives one pause and raises the real possibility that 9/11 type attacks were being planned as far back as 1995 by insiders in the neo-Nazi/Islamic terrorist network. (And flying a privately owned jet or one operated by remote control would save the problem of hijacking airliners en route.) Strassmeir left the United States shortly after the bombing and currently resides in Berlin.

March 30, 1997 Electronic Telegraph Issue 674

Dennis Mahon must lead a charmed life. The FBI has pursued endless leads into the 1995 Oklahoma bombing, collecting more than 26,000 witness statements. But it has never been to visit him at his bungalow in Tulsa. The omission is curious. Mahon, 47, is an associate of the government's chief suspect, Tim McVeigh. Indeed, McVeigh's defence team says Mahon sent a tape to their client in prison urging him to accept his "sacrifice" and reminding him in a subtle way that members of his family were vulnerable. Before the bombing on April 19, 1995, he was the subject of a terrorism investigation which generated allegations that he was plotting to blow up a federal building in Oklahoma. In case the authorities had overlooked this, an undercover informant reminded the FBI two days after the bombing that she had told them that Mahon had made three trips to Oklahoma City. On one visit in 1994, the informant said he "cased" the building that was attacked. A former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and now a leader of the more militant White Aryan Resistance, Mahon has never made a secret of his extremism. He has called for the overthrow of the United States government by "any means" and regards it as an honour to have been barred from Britain and Canada. "I always deliver my bombs in person, in disguise," he said mischievously. "I can look like a hispanic or even a Negro. I'm the master of disguise." He has kept his sense of humour, despite being the chief target of McVeigh's defence team in the trial that starts tomorrow. McVeigh's lawyers have introduced documents in court asserting a "high probability" that Mahon and his friend Andreas Strassmeir, a former German army officer, were behind the Oklahoma bombing. "This is where I make my bombs," he said, giving me a tour of a workshop attached to his house. "Just kidding. Everybody seems to think I did the bombing. Even the Iraqis think I did it," he explained, saying he had been on the Iraqi payroll as a propagandist for more than three years. "They paid me $100 a month."

Source

6 posted on 03/02/2004 6:08:07 AM PST by ravingnutter
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bump.
7 posted on 03/02/2004 7:31:33 AM PST by jjm2111
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At the time of the 9/11 attacks domestic groups opposed to what they call "Zionist occupied government" or ZOG. praised the attacks. These of course are the white supremacist organizations.

I have also found that federal agency testimony before Congress beginning in the 1990s made the drug gangs - radical Islam connections.

For example, a year ago "Gen. James T. Hill, SouthCom's commander, pushing for help to fight the potential threat, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that three Middle Eastern groups on the State Department's terrorist list may have a presence in South America -- Hezbollah (Party of God), Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement) and Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group). 'Radical Islamic supporters have long gathered in areas such as the tri-border region between Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina, known for its deep links to a full range of transnational criminal activities,' Hill said. [end excerpt]

Glad to see that at least outside the White House some people in Washington are willing to name the enemy. Gee, I wonder if the general got fired? Meanwhile Saudi Arabia pours millions of dollars into South America to spread radical Islam.

Left out of the article is the radical Chicano Atzlan - radical Islam connection, mostly Palestinian.

Why should anyone be surprised by these facts even if there have been no thirty second segments on ABCNNBCBS "news?"

Then there's the federal lawsuit brought by OKC bombing survivors against Iraq claiming to have a "mountain" of evidence of Iraqi involvement.

I would not be surprised to find a radical Islam connecton -- even if Tom, Dan, and Peter and the really, really smart Americans feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel otherwise.

8 posted on 03/02/2004 7:31:45 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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9 posted on 03/02/2004 7:33:19 AM PST by Alouette (Mitul d'min kadam Shemayo malchusa v'shalim b'ammaya)
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To: SJackson
OKC: Mo muslim involvement. "Christian" white-boy only.

Believe the FBI and you will be happy.

Now, move along.
10 posted on 03/02/2004 8:40:23 AM PST by tubavil
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To: SJackson
More info from a search I did on "Strassmeir, Iraq":

Mahon, a frequent visitor to the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho, was also an habitue of the Aryan Nations sister community in rural eastern Oklahoma known as Elohim City. The Marxism-spouting Mahon admits to being closely associated with the Aryan Republican Army bank robbers and to admiring the IRA terrorists. He boasts of his connections to Saddam Hussein’s intelligence service and admits to having been in its pay, beginning during the Persian Gulf War, when he organized several rallies for Iraq. During an interview with a Brazilian television crew, Mahon unrolled and proudly held up a poster of Yasir Arafat, reportedly one of his heroes.

Mahon also admits his close friendship with German soldier Andreas Strassmeir, whom Tim McVeigh telephoned at Elohim City before the Oklahoma City bombing. It is Mahon and Strassmeir who Carol Howe, the "key" informant for the FBI and ATF at Elohim City, insists are the prime suspects in the OKC bombing. Strassmeir, who was living in the U.S. illegally, was spirited out of the U.S. through Mexico several months after the bombing by attorney Kirk Lyons, a legal activist for racists and militant national socialists. On July 13, 1997 the Dublin Sunday Times reported that Strassmeir had moved to Dublin and was associating with Sinn Fein, the political arm of the IRA. Earlier, informant Carol Howe had reported that Strassmeir had received detonators for the OKC explosive charges from his IRA blasting buddies. Completely independent of Howe, federal informant Cary Gagan had stated (in July of 1995) that he had met in Mexico City with his Middle Eastern bombing co-conspirators — and a "former" member of the IRA who was providing expertise and detonators for the planned bombing operations in the U.S. Source

BTW, Strassmeir is rumored to be an FBI Informant:

In a series of interviews conducted in Berlin last year with Ambrose Evans-Pritchard of the Daily Telegraph of London, Strassmeir stated that he came to the U.S. in 1989 because he was planning to work on a special assignment for the U.S. Justice Department. "I discussed the job when I was in Washington," he told Evans-Pritchard. "I was hoping to work for the operations section of the DEA [Drug Enforcement Administration]." But, Strassmeir said, "It didn't work out." Or did it? Last July THE NEW AMERICAN interviewed Vincent Petruskie, a former Air Force officer whom Strassmeir identified as a CIA agent and friend of his father. Petruskie, who now runs Petruskie Associates, a business consulting firm in Manassas, Virginia, confirmed that "Andi wanted to work for the U.S. government -- DEA, Justice -- undercover," and he had put the German soldier in touch with "some people in Washington."

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That is why the ME involvement was concealed...it was a bust gone bad.

11 posted on 03/02/2004 8:56:49 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: SJackson
More on Iraq/al Qaeda connection:

The principal reason for suspecting an Iraqi role in the Sept. 11 attacks is of course the much-discussed report of a meeting in Prague on April 8, 2001, between apparent hijacking leader Mohamed Atta and Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, an Iraqi diplomat expelled as a spy shortly thereafter. Press reports have repeatedly cast doubt on these reports, apparently because the FBI located Atta in Virginia and Florida shortly before and after the meeting and found no record of his leaving the U.S. But the latest report, in the Aug. 2 edition of the Los Angeles Times, quotes a high Bush administration official as saying evidence of the meeting "holds up." In the face of doubts and denials, Czech officials have repeatedly maintained that they're sure the meeting took place. Atta also passed through Prague on his way to the U.S. in June of 2000, returning a second time after being refused entry for lack of a visa.

There are also reports of various contacts between Iraqis and the al Qaeda terrorist network, notably a 1998 visit to Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan by Saddam Hussein's deputy head of military intelligence at the time, Faruq al-Hijazi. In congressional testimony in March, CIA Director George Tenet noted that Iraq has "had contacts with al Qaeda," adding that "the two sides mutual antipathy toward the United States and the Saudi royal family suggest that tactical cooperation between them is possible."

Espionage writer Edward Jay Epstein has pointed out that of the eight pilots and co-pilots of hijacked planes on Sept. 11, none got off a distress call. What we know of the incidents came from stewardesses and flyers with cell phones. Commercial satellite photos show the body of an airliner at Salman Pak, where the Iraqis are thought to maintain terrorist training camps. One Iraqi defector, Sabah Khalifa Alami, has stated that Iraqi intelligence trained groups at Salman Pak on how to hijack planes without weapons. Mr. Epstein details these connections at his Web site, www.edwardjayepstein.com.

None of this is "hard evidence," let alone "conclusive evidence," that Saddam Hussein was complicit in Sept. 11 or any of the other domestic terrorist attacks. But there is quite a bit of smoke curling up from various routes to Baghdad, and it's not clear that anyone except Jayna Davis and Laurie Mylroie has looked very hard for fire. We do know that Saddam Hussein plotted to assassinate former President George Bush during a visit to Kuwait in April 1993. Could he have been waging a terror offensive against the U.S. ever since the end of the Gulf War? This remains a speculative possibility, but a possibility that needs to be put on the table in a serious way.

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12 posted on 03/02/2004 9:20:17 AM PST by ravingnutter
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While pursuing the story of these Middle Eastern men, Davis also became aware of another ex-Iraqi soldier in Oklahoma City named Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. She was taken aback to see that Al-Hussaini's picture, when overlaid with the government sketch of John Doe No. 2, was arguably a perfect match. He even sported a tattoo on his upper left arm indicating that he likely had served in Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.

Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates as frequent visitors to an Oklahoma City motel in the months, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions, the subjects were seen in the company of McVeigh, and during a few instances, associating with Nichols - at the same motel!

< *snip* >

For example, Nichols was a man of modest means. Yet he traveled frequently to the Philippines. Davis discovered that Nichols was there, in Cebu City in December 1994, at the same time as the convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.

She has also found evidence that Islamic terrorists boasted of having recruited two "lily whites" for terrorism.

As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.

One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.

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13 posted on 03/02/2004 9:34:34 AM PST by ravingnutter
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Mo=No
14 posted on 03/02/2004 1:17:28 PM PST by tubavil
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Pong.
15 posted on 03/02/2004 1:28:44 PM PST by sauropod (I intend to have Red Kerry choke on his past.)
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To: SJackson
Black and Red Terrorist Internationals

by William F. Jasper

American neo-Nazis linking up with Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO, and other Middle Eastern terrorist groups backed by Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Libya? A lot of people seem to have a hard time imagining such a union. They wouldn’t if they were familiar with the sordid history and geo-politics of international terrorism. The Black International, a terrorist network of former World War II Nazis and Fascists and their younger proselytes, operated throughout Europe during the 1960s and ’70s, with deadly effect. And it is still alive.

United by Hatred

Now, as then, the neo-Nazis cooperate with the Red International, the network of international terrorists funded, trained, supplied, and directed by Russia, China, Cuba, North Korea, and other surrogate regimes of the communists, including a multitude of Middle Eastern terrorist organizations. A Black summit in Paris on March 28, 1970 helped launch a major drive to recruit white European youth for Yasir Arafat’s Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Prominent among those present was Jean Roberts Debbaudt, an ex-SS officer who placed his Belgian Rexist Party "totally and unconditionally at the service of the Palestine Resistance." Other such conferences followed, cementing the ties between the black shirts, the PLO, the IRA, and other terrorist elements. Colonel Qaddafi of Libya provided funding, arms, training, and sanctuary. Besides having a common statist philosophy and totalitarian world view, these miscreants are united by a burning hatred for Israel, the United States, Christianity, and "bourgeois" capitalist society.

At a Black summit held at the Rome Hilton in 1974, Qaddafi sent his prime minister, Ahmed Jalloud, loaded with money bags for the noble effort. The Libyan dictator was, at the same time, helping finance the Palestinian terror network in Paris run by the Venezuelan communist Illich Ramirez Sanchez, also known as Carlos the Jackal, whose main banker — and Soviet KGB control officer — was Antonio Dages Bouvier. Earlier, in 1971, millionaire communist Giangiacomo Feltrinelli, scion of one of Italy’s wealthiest families and a founder of Italy’s murderous Red Brigades, had met secretly in Switzerland with Valerio Borghese, Italy’s "Black Prince" of the neo-Fascist terrorists, to coordinate attacks on their mutual enemies: established democratic order, Israel, and Zionism. Franco Freda, the neo-Nazi-Maoist, who was later convicted and given a life sentence for the 1969 bombing of Milan’s Bank of Agriculture, held a rally and fundraiser in Padua to honor Yasir Arafat’s terror exploits.

German neo-Nazis who were also members of the PLO included Odfried Hepp and Udo Albrecht, both of whom also worked for the Stasi, the communist secret police of the former East Germany. During the Persian Gulf War, German neo-Nazi leader Michael Kuhnen, founder of the Anti-Zionist League, negotiated an agreement to provide Saddam Hussein with 100 neo-Nazi troops. He died before he could fulfill that contract, but French neo-Nazi leader Michael Faci stepped in to recruit an unknown number of "storm troopers" to fight for Iraq.

Gary Lauck, a rabid racist from Nebraska known as the "Farm Belt Fuehrer," who was arrested and convicted in Germany for smuggling banned Nazi propaganda to neo-Nazi groups in that country, is reported to have frequent contacts with Middle Eastern terrorist groups. He also wrote a manifesto entitled "Strategy, Propaganda, and Organization," filled with Marxoid dialectical drivel and calls for the integration of militant extremist groups worldwide into a global terrorist network.

Links to the OKC Bombing

Lauck’s friend, former Oklahoma Ku Klux Klan factotum Dennis Mahon, appears to have attempted to put that plan into practice. Mahon, a frequent visitor to the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho, was also an habitue of the Aryan Nations sister community in rural eastern Oklahoma known as Elohim City. The Marxism-spouting Mahon admits to being closely associated with the Aryan Republican Army bank robbers and to admiring the IRA terrorists. He boasts of his connections to Saddam Hussein’s intelligence service and admits to having been in its pay, beginning during the Persian Gulf War, when he organized several rallies for Iraq. During an interview with a Brazilian television crew, Mahon unrolled and proudly held up a poster of Yasir Arafat, reportedly one of his heroes.

Mahon also admits his close friendship with German soldier Andreas Strassmeir, whom Tim McVeigh telephoned at Elohim City before the Oklahoma City bombing. It is Mahon and Strassmeir who Carol Howe, the "key" informant for the FBI and ATF at Elohim City, insists are the prime suspects in the OKC bombing. Strassmeir, who was living in the U.S. illegally, was spirited out of the U.S. through Mexico several months after the bombing by attorney Kirk Lyons, a legal activist for racists and militant national socialists. On July 13, 1997 the Dublin Sunday Times reported that Strassmeir had moved to Dublin and was associating with Sinn Fein, the political arm of the IRA. Earlier, informant Carol Howe had reported that Strassmeir had received detonators for the OKC explosive charges from his IRA blasting buddies. Completely independent of Howe, federal informant Cary Gagan had stated (in July of 1995) that he had met in Mexico City with his Middle Eastern bombing co-conspirators — and a "former" member of the IRA who was providing expertise and detonators for the planned bombing operations in the U.S.

16 posted on 03/02/2004 5:53:55 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ravingnutter
Did Nichols and Yousef meet?
17 posted on 03/02/2004 6:01:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SJackson
If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that the Nazis helped found the Baath Party in Iraq to help stir up trouble against the British (who were controlling Iraq at the time). Does anyone else have any information on this?
18 posted on 03/02/2004 6:11:36 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Eagle Scout class of 1992.)
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Pang Thanks ,man
19 posted on 03/02/2004 8:13:36 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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