Skip to comments.Old Kerry Quotes Unearthed
Posted on 03/04/2004 7:46:04 PM PST by ElephantMan
By Matthew Reid
"Where's the backbone of France?"
No, that's not the name of the new Toby Keith CD. It's not some ill-timed remark from President Bush or even the title of a new book from Ann Coulter. That is but one of the provocative questions asked by Sen. John Kerry on CNN's Crossfire back in November of 1997.
That comment, and others cited below, came during Kerry's vigorous defense against charges that the Clinton administration was sparring with member nations of the UN Security Council, including France and Russia. We now know that France was illegally trading with Saddam during those years, which explains their behaviour, but what about Mr. Kerry?
It does appear that his position on war vacillates depending on the political benefit to him - and the party affiliation of the president initiating the action. Gulf War 1, Republican president George Bush 1, Kerry votes no - even though Saddam had invaded another country! (And now he talks like he supported it all along.)
1997-1998, Clinton wants to use military force, no problem, he's a Democrat. And while Kerry did vote to authorize the recent War in Iraq, he now claims he wasn't really voting to use force, just to threaten it.
On the campaign trail, Kerry blames the President for equipment shortages our troops are dealing with, relating stories of family members buying body armor on the Internet. Yet it was John Kerry, who inexplicably voted against the 87 Billion Dollar appropriations bill which included funding for that very same equipment.
Then again, Mr. Kerry has never let what he said yesterday interfere with what he needs to say today.
Take Kerry's response to the well-orchestrated Democrat charge that Bush was AWOL. He tried to appear above the fray, saying something like, well, it was a difficult issue, I understand that, "some people wanted to serve, others didn't."
That choice of words is curious because, while Kerry did serve, it was not his first choice. A February, 1970 Harvard Crimson article says, "When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy."
Some people chose to go to Vietnam, others would have rather gone to France.
And while Kerry and the Democrat Smear Machine forced the President to release all of his Vietnam era records, John Kerry refuses to release his medical records.
Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months during which he was awarded 3 Purple Hearts for wounds suffered in battle. Mr. Kerry is the only obstacle to the release of those records, but for some reason he doesn't want the public to see them.
Of course, he probably doesn't want anybody to see this either, but here's more from that Crossfire transcript, Kerry, defending the Clinton administration from charges of failed leadership said, "On the contrary. The administration is leading - I think the United States has always reserved the right and will reserve the right to act in its best interests."
Wait a second. John Kerry equating presidential leadership with going it alone? This doesn't sound like John F. Kerry circa 2004 does it? Then again, Kerry's never been one to let his position on an issue stop him from taking a completely different position on the very same issue.
Kerry continued, "And clearly it is not just our best interests, it is in the best interests of the world to make it clear to Saddam Hussein that he's not going to get away with a breach of the '91 agreement that he's got to live up to, which is: allowing us to know that he has dismantled his weapons."
More from Senator Kerry, the unilateralist hawk, "Clearly the allies may not like it,
(Excerpt) Read more at scoop.co.nz ...
The weird thing is, Scoop.co.nz is a well known super lefty website, but for some reason they publish the occasional conservative piece.
Lefties will eat roadkill if they think it'll impress their friends, and
because of this, I think some lefties who see Kerry as overly weak
will attack him in an attempt to enhance their own reputations.
They have little to lose and a reputation to gain.
I think this sums up the essence of the man.
He can't. People would read them and report. It would destroy him for life politically. Even his wife would be furious he lied to her.
This is new news, I just heard of it today!!
LOL. They would, too.
Fortunately, those quotes are available by the metric ton right here.
The Harvard Crimson article Reid references was first posted on FreeRepublic 3 weeks ago. Matthew Reid is yet another journalist who uses FreeRepublic for research without attribution.
Smile. Been there, done that.
I have one dog for a while she would go run in the bedroom and hide under the bed when she heard the words "Gray Davis".
I think she's a Democrat; she is a Belgian Shepherd.
After he joined the Navy, he never chose to go into combat either.
Kerry has puffed up his Vietnam record so much that even some on FreeRepublic consider him some sort of Audie Murphy.
Here is my exchange, from another thread on this subject.
What bothered me about this article saying Kerry "only served" four months on a tour is that he had a cushy job on the big ship and opted to volunteer for his second tour of duty on a swift boat. In other words he took himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty. That has to count for something.
That is what Kerry and the Democrats want us to believe and that is the version they are putting out. However, that version is pure Bravo Sierra and is not supported by the facts or by Kerry's own statements.
It would indeed be extremely admirable if Kerry had knowingly taken "himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty".
However, Kerry never volunteered for combat or any duty he dreamed would get him into combat.
Kerry was the First Division Officer when he served on the USS Gridley.
John F. Kerry, the junior U.S. Senator from Massachusetts is positioning himself for a run at the Presidency in 2004. Ensign (and later LTJG Kerry) reported aboard GRIDLEY straight out of the Fleet Training Center, San Diego on 8 June 1967. This boot Ensign headed up First Division and is shown here with Calvert BM1 and BMCS Enochs. His biographical materials never mention this period even though he was aboard GRIDLEY much longer than he was in Vietnam. Between having these two old salts reporting to him and Captain Slifer after him all the time, Ensign Kerry was a busy young man.
What is "First Division"?
First Division is one of the "Deck Divisions" on a ship. In Navy slang, the "Deck Apes". They swab the decks. They chip paint. They paint the areas they finished chipping. After that, they swab, they chip and they paint somemore. The bottom of the class at Navy Boot Camp ends up in a Deck Division.
In the Ward Room, the First Division Officer is the lowest guy in the ship's officers pecking order. When the XO or the CO need an S.L.J.O. (Shitty Little Jobs Officer), the First Division Officer is the guy that gets the job.
Kerry was in charge of the least skilled sailors in the lowest prestige division on his ship and, apparently, his C.O., Captain Slifer, was not making life very pleasant for our Boston Blue Blood who was more used to sailing on John F. Kennedy's yacht.
What to do?
At the time, swift boats merely patrolled the coastline or ferried salors between ships.
Most importantly, a mere Lt.(j.g.) was the Officer in Charge (OIC).
Instead of being the SLJO on the USS Gridley, in charge of Deck Ape Division, with Captain Slifer making his life miserable, Kerry pictured himself as the OIC of his own boat, roaring up and down the South China Sea out of the war and with no Captain Slifer anywhere in sight.
But, don't take my word for it.
Let's hear it from John F. Kerry himself:
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ........"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."......... But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.
Two weeks after Kerry assumed command of his swift boat, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt put into effect his idea of getting those swift boats out of glorified water skiing duty........
.......into the shooting war in the rivers of the Mekong Delta.
As Robert Burns once wrote, "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
What does Kerry do now after you have gone from glorified water skier straight into deep kim-chee?
Kerry signed up for being OIC of his own water skiing boat and here he was in the middle of a friggin war!!
Kerry then racked up three Purple Hearts for "injuries" that kept him off duty for a grand total of.....drum roll, please..... two days of duty by his own admission and zero days according to his swift boat C.O.
Kerry then sea-lawyered himself out of combat after only four months and requested a transfer as an "Admiral's aide", preferably in "Boston, New York or Washington".
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ......... He requested and was granted a transfer out of Vietnam six months before his combat tour was slated to end on the grounds that he had earned three Purple Hearts. None of his wounds was disabling; he said one cost him two days of service and the other two did not lead to any absence. .........The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer.
When the Boston Globe asked Kerry to give permission for the release of his Navy medical records so that the Boston Globe could document what sort of injuries earned Kerry three Purple Hearts and a ticket out of combat after 4 months.........Kerry refused.
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made; from First Division Officer to swift boat OIC; from swift boat OIC to early termination of his combat tour; from early termination of his combat tour to Admiral's aide; from Admiral's aide to early discharge from active duty; from early discharge from active duty to politically-popular-in-Massachusets American-G.I.'s-are-war-criminals anti-war protestor.....
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made in his Navy carreer was made to further the comfort, safety and political ambitions of John F. Kerry.
Well, to be fair to Kerry, anyone with a decent college degree is going to end up in OCS.
So why be fair to kerry.
Who's he being fair to?
Besides, in those days merit could get you into OCS.
You didn't have to be a college graduate.He lacked merit, so the degree and connections got him in.
So true, like how John Kerry refers to Vietnam as "Richard Nixon's War" when it was really LBJ's (D) war.
1. CNN Crossfire / November 12, 1997; Wednesday, 7:30 pm Eastern Time (Lexis-Nexis Transcript #97111200V20)
2. The Harvard Crimson quote is available online here: http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185
WHY WON'T THE US MEDIA DO THEIR JOB AND REVEAL THIS TO AMERICA?
Actually, the source was Rush Limbaugh on February 11, 2004 -- 6 days prior to it hitting Free Republic -- although I agree that FR is the most effective site to get the word out through and I always come here if I want to find out if something has happened or to get info on a particular subject.
(I'm not sure if that link only works for subscribers to the 24/7 site, but I think it works for non-subscribers as well.)
I'm sure Rush wouldn't mind, since we're actually just giving him credit...
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Harvard Crimson 1970: Genuine Kerry
February 11, 2004
2:50 PM ET BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: All right, Harvard Crimson, February 11th - I'm sorry - yeah, okay, published today, February 11th, 2004, but it's actually a story that goes back to 1970, February 13th.
"Ten months after returning home from Vietnam, a young John Kerry strolled into the offices of The Harvard Crimson on Feb. 13, 1970 as an obscure underdog in the Democratic Congressional primary. The decorated veteran, honorably discharged after a tour of duty in the Mekong Delta, spoke in fierce terms during his daylong interview with The Crimsons Samuel Z. Goldhaber 72."
For those of you in Rio Linda, '72 is the year he graduated. If you read about something that says so-and-so Stanford '85, it doesn't mean they were 85 years old, he's a graduate of Stanford '85. This guy Goldhaber graduated Harvard '72. That's what it means. I love telling people things they don't know. Back to the Harvard Crimson story.
"But almost 34 years later, Kerrys remarks on American military and intelligence operations vastly diverge from opinions expressed by the present-day Sen. John F. Kerry, D.-Mass., the leading candidate in the Democratic primary for president. 'Im an internationalist,' Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. 'Id like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.'"
That doesn't sound so different than Kerry today. He would turn over everything to the UN as far as he's concerned. That's consistent.
"Kerry said he wanted 'to almost eliminate CIA activity. The CIA is fighting its own war in Laos and nobody seems to care.'" Well, he's voted to cut back the CIA. I don't think there is any inconsistency so far, do you? No, I don't, either.
"The Kerry campaign, celebrating primary victories in Virginia and Tennessee last night, declined to comment on the senator's " Of course they're not going to comment on this, talking about all these mainstream values these Democrats are falling for. I'm telling you, they don't know who they got here. They're going to find out. They don't know who they've nominated here. "As a candidate for president, Kerry has said he supports the autonomy of the U.S. military and has never called for a scale back of CIA operations."
Well, we got to parse this. He may never have called for it, and I don't know about that, he's voted for it. We've got the voting record. He's voted to cut back the CIA, he's voted to scale it back. And supporting the autonomy of the U.S. military? I don't think so. He wanted to turn over all this Iraq business to the United Nations. He wanted to put everything in charge. He wanted the blue helmets.
"Former Secretary of Labor, Robert B. Reich defended Kerry's 1970 statements as appropriate for their time." But they haven't changed, Secretary Reich. Said the secretary, "In the context of the Vietnam War those comments are completely understandable." They are still his beliefs, Secretary Reich-h-h-h-h-h-h.
"A spokesperson for President Bush's reelection campaign said that Kerry's 1970 remarks signaled the senator's weakness on defense. Spokesperson Kevin Madden said, 'President Bush will never cede the best interests of the national security of the American people to anybody but the president of the United States, along with the Congress.' The increasingly likely matchup between Kerry and Bush has already prompted comparisons of the senator's record " blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
"Goldhaber, '72, whose first person profile of Kerry ran in The Crimson, February 18th of '70 said yesterday that he recalled the candidate as an emerging outsider whose campaign focused squarely on his opposition to the Vietnam War, 'We lived, dreamed, and breathed Vietnam,' said Goldhaber '72. Still, Adam Clymer, '58, political director of the National Annenberg election survey at the University of Pennsylvania said that Kerry's comments would likely find their way into the Bush campaign."
Really, Adam Clymer, '58? What is your first clue? And Reich-h-h-h-h-h-h forecasted that GOP research will extend far beyond Capitol Hill. Really? What geniuses these guys are. "Said Reich, 'If Kerry is the nominee, Republicans will try and search back into everything he ever said on every issue."
We'll do that, but we're not going to have to go any further back than the Vietnam war, the Iraq war and the war on terror. Everything he said in his voting record and the CIA, it's all there. It juxtaposes nicely; it flows nicely and geometrically from what he said In The Harvard Crimson in 1970 to today. It flows. It's just a matter of time.
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