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To: Sabertooth
"You people?" Watch who you libel.

I don't engage in groupthink. If an individual is an anti-semite that is his/hers to own and his/hers alone. I certainly wouldn't put you in that category.

I'm uneasy with the neocon/Jew formulation.

That's good to know. :)

I'm also uneasy with the viciousness by which some Jews, such as Krauthammer, have taken the opportunity of this film to display their anti-Christian bigotry against Christians in a Christian nation that has always been Israel's best friend.

There is nothing anti-Christian about having problems with this movie. If that was so, there appears to be quite a few anti-Christian Christians out there.

If you think our ongoing support to Israel will remain unremarked in the face of these smears, you will find you are mistaken.

Shrug. If one's support for Israel is so paper-thin that a disagreement over a movie, or Biblical interpretation, shakes it, how strong was it in the first place? And plenty of Jews have supported the film, so how will you decide to withdraw your support for Israel -- based upon the opinions of which Jews???

496 posted on 03/05/2004 7:36:42 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: veronica
I don't engage in groupthink. If an individual is an anti-semite that is his/hers to own and his/hers alone. I certainly wouldn't put you in that category.

I appreciate that. I'd suggest, then, that the "you people" rhetoric is not constructive in this debate, from any quarter.

There is nothing anti-Christian about having problems with this movie. If that was so, there appears to be quite a few anti-Christian Christians out there.

That some may "have problems with the movie" isn't quite the bone of contention.

The problem here is the indiscriminate and cavalier hurling of the charge of anti-Semitism.

Shrug. If one's support for Israel is so paper-thin that a disagreement over a movie, or Biblical interpretation, shakes it, how strong was it in the first place? And plenty of Jews have supported the film, so how will you decide to withdraw your support for Israel -- based upon the opinions of which Jews???

This is precisely contrary to what I'm suggesting.

We've been told that "The Passion of the Christ" will incite anti-Semitism, and pogroms. Where are they?

The point I made is that at this hour in human History, the friendship of Christians to Jews and to Israel is not so tenuous that it can be torn by misunderstandings of this film, or the false charges of anti-Semitism that have sometimes accompanied those misunderstandings.


536 posted on 03/05/2004 8:06:56 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: veronica
Is it worse to be antisemitic than antichristian?
825 posted on 03/05/2004 2:12:53 PM PST by stands2reason
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