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To: rbmillerjr
"No modern movie focuses on this loving act by our God. Giving His Son for us. That is why Christians are going to see this movie."

By the fruits....So far the fruits of this movie have not been so good if this forum is any example. It seems to have torn open old wounds and fostered not love but division. Mostly political division. I think that arch-Christian conservatives had high hopes that this movie would silence all the critics of the Christian Right. That it would shame the liberals and secular critics of the Christian Right into conversion and silence so that the Christian Right would finally get the "respect they deserve." Instead nothing much has changed and the frustration is palpable and ugly -consisting of throwing good men like Krauthammer over the side. You could not find a better man than he is.

Probably the movie has helped foster private piety. But the public fallout in some applications such as ecumenism has been damaging.

656 posted on 03/05/2004 10:05:11 AM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
"I think that arch-Christian conservatives had high hopes that this movie would silence all the critics of the Christian Right. That it would shame the liberals and secular critics of the Christian Right into conversion and silence "

You think incorrectly and in a conspiratorial manner.

Christians are flocking to this movie about their Lord and Savior and his painful sacrifice for us.
663 posted on 03/05/2004 10:08:37 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
By the fruits....So far the fruits of this movie have not been so good if this forum is any example. It seems to have torn open old wounds and fostered not love but division. Mostly political division. I think that arch-Christian conservatives had high hopes that this movie would silence all the critics of the Christian Right. That it would shame the liberals and secular critics of the Christian Right into conversion and silence so that the Christian Right would finally get the "respect they deserve." Instead nothing much has changed and the frustration is palpable and ugly -consisting of throwing good men like Krauthammer over the side. You could not find a better man than he is. Probably the movie has helped foster private piety. But the public fallout in some applications such as ecumenism has been damaging.

I concur. The hatred is palpable and extremely disappointing. The movie may make alot of money but I don't see it producing good fruit yet, at least not on FR. I am keeping my eyes and ears open.

667 posted on 03/05/2004 10:13:02 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
"Probably the movie has helped foster private piety. But the public fallout in some applications such as ecumenism has been damaging."

Christ said he has not come to bring peace but a sword. He brings division. What this film does is drop an atomic bomb in the midst of the culture war. It stiffens the spines of lax Christians and will confirm faith all around the globe.
It is to our world what the novel Uncle Tom's Cabin was to nineteenth century America. Lincoln said it started the Civil War--and destroyed slavery in the end. This film will have a similar effect--breaking the hegemony of secular decadence.

As for ecumenism--it was based on mutual delusions. Jews, for instance, now feel betrayed, thinking ecumenicism had meant the Gospels themselves might be countermanded and history rewritten, focusing blame on the Romans; Christians imagined Jews understood there could be no possibility of denying the actual historicity of the Gospels; they are shocked by angry Jewish reactions, especially by the linkage of Christianity to the Holocaust.
972 posted on 03/05/2004 9:53:13 PM PST by ultima ratio
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