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To: Lazamataz
So what would you suggest? Moving to mars?

You can't hide from a world economy and a head in the sand approach won't do a thing.

I have a suspicion about all these statistics. The economy around where I live is busting at the seams. And it doesn't do this unless the rest of the country is doing quite well.

Something isn't adding up.
3 posted on 03/05/2004 6:00:16 AM PST by snooker ( You can troll a 'botox gigolo' through a swamp, and some dumb gator will always bite.)
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To: snooker
I have a suspicion about all these statistics. The economy around where I live is busting at the seams.

With automation the hamburger can be manufactured with less people.
13 posted on 03/05/2004 6:20:08 AM PST by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: snooker; harpseal; rdb3
So what would you suggest?

Why, I'm glad you asked.

In no particular order of importance.

  1. Get rid of government subsidies for offshore investment of US companies. OPIC is the first such program which should go but support of World Bank programs that subsidize the outflow of Capital would be another.

  2. Use tariffs on those nations which are engaged in unfair trade practices such as currency manipulation (China and India for example), those nations which refuse to open their markets to US products (China for example with its 50% tariffs on US consumer goods and non tariff barriers), those nations that subsidize competition to American Industry (airbus for example) and those nations which have slave conditions for their workers.

  3. Use tariffs and other means to prevent the relocation of jobs offshore that are essential to the national defense. If necessary take control of the company seeking to export vital technology or industry by means of eminent domain (No I do not like this last option and I will only defend its use as an absolute last resort like say in the case of rare earth magnets essential to smart bomb technology). Provide a hardened, widely distributed infrastructure to supply all that is needed for our military units and civil defense that can be continued to be deployed in the event of any military attack.

  4. An immediate end to guest worker programs. If people wish to come to the USA to work and make a life let them immigrate according to the rules.

  5. Provide economic development zones where the corporate income tax is zero for operations within these zones. In order to operate in this zone a company must agree to only purchase American components if available and employ only American citizens or legal immigrants in these operations. These economic development zones shall be eventually be expanded to include every bit of every state once the benefits are shown I would like them to be totally implemented immediately but I realize that may be overreaching. It must be stated for clarification that simply being in the geographic area of the zones does will not subject any company to any new mandatory regulation. Everything is voluntary for getting the exclusion from corporate taxation. The profit attributable to direct imports is subject to the same rules that exist everywhere else in this nation for corporate taxation. Only free from such taxation is the profit attributable to American content and any American improvement. In short no new mandatory regulation will be a part of this. It is my opinion that there will not be a lack of companies seeking this tax relief. And no the regulation implied is absolutely minimal in order to get this through.

  6. Scale back unnecessary regulation including the tort system. Institute a cap on punitive damages, limits on class action suits, and limits on liability to the actual percentage of liability with no plaintiff able to collect if said plaintiff was involved in the commission of a felony at the time of the alleged tort or was more than 49% negligent in the alleged tort. Note that the loser in a frivolous lawsuit shall pay the attorney fees of the winner. There are many other regulatory structures that also need to be included that need to be included such as repealing the Family leave mandate, getting rid of OSHA etc.

  7. Increase the domestic content in purchases by the Department of defense and give absolute preference in non-domestic content to proven allies of the USA over say the French or Germans. The only reason any content for DOD purchase may come from non US allies is that content is not available elsewhere and is essential.

  8. Do not allow expense involved in moving operations overseas to be included in business expenses under the IRS code.

  9. Prosecute for perjury anyone who has made a false statement in order to employ an H1B or L1 visa worker. I will be lenient on the actual perjurer if he/she was ordered to make this false statement and he/she provides testimony to aid in the conviction of the person ordering the perjury. Just because a person is a CEO does not give them a pass on criminal behavior.

  10. Prosecute anyone who orders the transfer of vital defense technology or funds a R&D project that could be of use to our military overseas except to strong allies of the USA. Make the necessary enhancements to our espionage laws so that continued support or funding of any R&D in a nation whose government has threatened the USA is guilty of espionage. The UK and Australia come to mind as meeting these criteria for being eligible for transfer of technology first. There will be other nations and a gradation of what can be transferred to which specific nation. Under no circumstances may technology be transferred to any nation whose government has threatened the USA within five years without a complete change of government or specific exemption from Congress and the administration.

  11. Deport all illegal aliens immediately and take measures that prevent the entry of any more illegal aliens. Fine all companies knowingly employing illegal aliens Criminal sanctions should be imposed on anyone helping an illegal alien stay in the USA in violation of our laws.

  12. Decrease the punishing levels of taxation on companies and eliminate the double taxation on corporate dividends. See effects of item 5 for how minimal this will be if item 5 covers the entire USA. Eliminate all IRS provisions that inhibit free use of independent contractors by businesses for example section 1706.

  13. Eliminate the minimum wage so that the worker can be paid based on productivity. Overtime compensation will remain the same but instead of 150% of the "wage" the worker would receive 150% of the production pay. If one through 13 are enacted # 14 becomes an irrelevancy as no one will be working for that low a wage.
Credit to harpseal and rdb3

16 posted on 03/05/2004 6:25:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: snooker
The economy around where I live is busting at the seams.

Cool. Where do you live? Many unemployed Freepers will want to move there.

20 posted on 03/05/2004 6:29:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (How to turn a 'Basher into a 'Bot: LET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN SUNSET!!!!)
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To: snooker
I have a suspicion about all these statistics. The economy around where I live is busting at the seams.

I agree! Just heard yesterday (on Fox???) that last week was lowest new unemployment claims in two years. I think it all depends on what your objective is. You can find some figure to support your POV.

22 posted on 03/05/2004 6:31:24 AM PST by night reader
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To: snooker
"I have a suspicion about all these statistics. The economy around where I live is busting at the seams. And it doesn't do this unless the rest of the country is doing quite well. -- Something isn't adding up.

Totally agree.

The checkout lines at local department stores are huge. Home repair contractors tell me they can't even keep up with requests from customers.

The large pharmacutical firm where my son works just hired a bunch of new employees, with plans to hire more.

And my own job, with a media conglomerate, just posted record earnings.

This whole "disappointing" spin is nothing but pundits who put high expectations on job growth in the first place so they can claim disappointment when numbers are released.

Also there is a psychological aspect in which many economists think that the economy should immediately return to the heady bubble days in the late 1990s in which thousands of people were being hired by dot.com companies, thereby driving unemployment numbers way down.

Of course those same pundits never explain that those same workers were laid off almost even before the dot.com boom began.

Another thing, I am quite certain that employment figures will be revised upwards as the Dept. of Labor begins getting the data from small, upstart companies and home based businesses which, as everyone knows, do not get counted in the BLS's monthly payroll survey.

Job growth has increased for the past six months, and will continue for twice that long if past performance is any indication.

106 posted on 03/05/2004 8:14:07 AM PST by Edit35
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