Bush 9/11 ads: WHO ARE THESE ANGRY 9/11 VICTIMS???

3/5/04 | Timeout

[Timeout]

The media has bombarded us with these stories about the 9/11 families' dismay at the Bush ads. But who are these people?

After watching them on Today, Hardball, Fox, etc. etc. etc., I decided to do a little snooping. I didn't have the names of those on TV, so I went with news articles on the web.

This is probably not news to you, but they're bleeding heart, anti war, peace protesters. If the press weren't so biased they would be calling them the "Bush Haters".

What I found is below:

[michaelt]

Lavrenti answered your questions much better than I could.

I was basically wondering if your concerns about what Bush did after 9/11 were more internationally or domestically focused, and/or if you really thought he did a bad job with the country's (and NYC's and DC's) psychology and healing process.

Lavrenti also touched on the waryness we have about newcomers. We have itchy trigger fingers, I'll admit to it too. A welcome could be one of two messages to a newcomer: a true welcome to Free Republic to someone who wants to productively add to the discussion, or a message that we know you're new, and we'll be on the lookout for disruptive behavior.

Since with many people we don't know which one it is, the welcome is cryptic.

[pointsal]

a CONCERNED AND SENSITIVE ping

[Reactionary]

As usual, the Stalinist media treats a liberal political operation as being an exercise in honesty.

We know better.

[nutmeg]

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[NYCVirago]

Good work. Virtually all of these "outraged" family members have huge paper trails of Bush bashing. They're not random interviewees, that's for sure.

[SkyPilot]

"Don't Politicize 9-11!! VOTE Kerry!"

[Timeout]

I just wrote an email to the Ombudsman of the Washington Post...I know he reads his email.

I became curious about these 9/11 victims criticizing Bush's ads. So I spent all of one hour on Google and found out quite a lot about their politics...information that was never mentioned in articles and interviews. Surely your reporters have better search resources than I do.

Paul Fahri's WashPost article sympathetically quoted Rita Lazar and Kelly Campbell. Would readers have been interested to know that both women were arrested, with other 9/11 family members, at an anti-war, anti-Bush rally in Washington in March,'03? The Post reported their arrests.

Lazar appears on a website called "Republicans Not Welcome" whose purpose is to organize protests at the RNC convention in New York. Both women are active in "Peaceful Tomorrows", a politically active 9/11 group with funding ties to the Heinz Foundation through the Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania.

Lastly, in Paul Fahri's article he described the political button the 9/11 families wore at last year's protest: "They wear U.N.-blue peace-sign buttons with the vertical line of the peace symbol rendered as the twin towers".

An unbiased press might at least have been curious enough to do the basic research I did. Especially when the info is in its own archives.

We'll see if he follows up.

[Big Horn]

We need a way to expose this farce.

[TN4Liberty]

C'mon, you can't tell me you are PLEASED with the way Bush has handled 9/11. I for one, want to know what happened and why it won't happen again, and he has done little to inspire me in this regard.

Ya know...

I know you are trolling. But even the stupidest troll should notice that there have been no... repeat NO... attacks against Americans on US soil since 9/11/01. At the time, no one imagined it would be possible to go 2 and 1/2 years without another attack. Yet we have.

Oh, and did you miss the whole Afghanistan thing? Hundreds of terrorists and terror supporters in Gitmo? AQ and other terrorists killed and captured in Iraq? Other successes in Spain, Turkey, Yemen, and of course, reconciling with the terrorist nation of Libya? (They sent us their nuke program ya know).

Only a true idiot would continue to rant about "not enough has been done." I guess you know what I think of Kerry, too.

[Timeout]

New Paragraph: = < P >...you type it without the space before or after the P. You can do a search on "html" to find helpful threads about this.

You obviously have your own opinions about 9/11. Bush allowed it to happen, maybe even knew in advance. Once it did start, for some nefarious reason he did nothing to stop it. And, he must invite more attacks because he hasn't done enough since then. Iraq was a distraction (blood for oil?) and we let Osama get away. (Of course, as soon as Osama's caught, you'll say it doesn't make us safer). In your world view we cannot take action to prevent our enemies from gaining WMD or aiding terrorist groups plotting against us. We must wait for the "crime" to be committed before we defend ourselves.

That seems to be your view, and you're welcome to it. You've chosen to come here where almost everyone disagrees with you. Freepers have offered their responses...what more do you want?

[lavrenti]

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How long did it take for NORAD to be enacted for the Payne Stewart incident?

Actually, we're quibbling over nothing. NORAD was going to do what? Shoot down a civilian airliner over an urban area? The Atta plane shot down the Hudson (over the Indian Point reactor, I may add).

A fighter escort for a plane with an unknown pilot at the helm and equally unknown intentions was not the answer. Also, I doubt they would have gotten to that plane in time, anyway. They obviously made an effort for the second.

There were no procedures in place. It was not a serious, logical option. I am very familiar with the Ramzi Yousef case where this type of activity was part of the gravaman of the government's brief against him and his fellow conspirators. However, it was inconceivable this type of attack would occur.

Given the context and mindset of 9|10 there was nothing anyone could do to prevent 9|11.

Now we have unending "9|12's", where we know what to do.

[Timeout]

Rise above the bullshit and hold your President accountable.

First, profanity is not necessary.

I don't know the answer as to why planes were scrambled faster in the Payne Stewart incident. I do know that the USAF planes were already in the air over the Southeastern U.S. since their home base was Eglin. They were re-routed to do a visual inspection of the non-responsive plane. Perhaps fighter planes were less common in the skies over NY and Boston.

AND it's entirely different dealing with one wayward plane vs. the chaos that prevailed on the morning of 9/11. You see nefarious. I feel total sympathy for the controllers, airline employees, military personnel and politicians who were desperately trying to make sense of the torrent of information flowing toward them that tragic morning.

[navygal]

I am tired of these people playing a professional victim, we all lost something, and most of us lost someone. Look at the countries that were libarated because we stood up for them, I for one will never forget 911 and at the same time I will keep living my life.