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KERRY'S PAST IS DISTURBING ON MANY LEVELS...
-- Is He A Fake War Hero & Patriot?
ICONOCLAST ^
| Frank Salvato
Posted on 03/06/2004 8:50:59 AM PST by Apolitical
Vietnam Veterans are not "flocking" to John Kerry's campaign, as his camp would all have us believe. In the South Carolina primary, Kerry's campaign made a big deal out of the monumental support they received from Vietnam Veterans. But when all was said and done, the Kerry campaign received only 33% of the veteran vote. In other words, the veteran's of South Carolina didn't vote for him by a ratio of 2:1. That's a far cry from monumental support.
Kerry has been doing quite a bit of walking on both sides of the fence when it comes to his military career and his anti-war activities. While he should be commended for his service to our country -- service that many others gave their lives performing -- his anti-war activities after his service are what many critics are finding disturbing.
In testimony before Congress, Vietnam veteran Kerry alleged that atrocities were being committed by American troops in the Southeast Asian country. He told of rapes and mutilations, torture and murder. He spoke of these allegations -- most of which never were and never have been proven (with the exception of the massacre at My Lai and a few very isolated instances) -- at the same time that U.S. service men and women were still fighting and dying in the Vietnam rice fields, cities and jungles (and many captured U.S. soldiers were been starved and tortured by their North Vietnam captors in ramshackle prisons). While today, he spotlights the deeds that garnered him a chest full of medals, he omits to mention that he broke the code of leaving no-one behind when he turned his back on those who were still fighting in Vietnam after his return (or worse were captives there).
Those may sound like harsh words, but one real "expert" who would know has said Kerry's efforts after his time in Vietnam actually helped the enemy, the North Vietnamese. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the general in charge of the North Vietnamese military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975, credited Kerry's 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War' with helping North Vietnam achieve victory. Giap has said that he believes groups such as Kerry's and the American media played an important part in Hanoi finally winning the war.
Couple all of this with a few little known facts and we can begin to see how Kerry has manipulated the actualities of his past in order to tailor them for his future.
In fact, Kerry's tenure on his first swift boat, No. 44, left him with no honors but rather some skeletons. While in command of Swift Boat No. 44, Kerry and crew functioned without forethought in a 'Free Fire Zone,' injudiciously firing at targets of opportunity and achieving a number of enemy kills along with some civilian deaths as well. His body count included a woman, her baby, a 12 year-old boy, an elderly man and several South Vietnamese soldiers. He freely admits participating in this type of activity and the casualties they caused - even the civilian casualties.
Between December of 1968 and February of 1969, Kerry received two of his three purple hearts -- one for a minor injury to his arm and another for a minor injury to his thigh.
He then took command of a second swift boat, No. 94, which operated in the Mekong Delta. Under his command they totaled 18 missions over a period of 48 days, a far cry from the many who completed full tours of duty there. It was for this assignment that he was awarded his Silver Star for killing a Viet Cong soldier who was already pinned down and wounded in a "Hooch" courtesy of Kerry's .50 caliber gunner. It was also on swift boat No. 94 where he received his third Purple Heart for once again receiving a minor wound from a mine that went off adjacent to his swift boat. Later, when asked about the severity of the combat injuries, Kerry himself said that one of them cost him about two days of service, and that the other two did not interrupt his duty. He classified himself as "walking wounded."
Keep in mind that John Forbes Kerry was the commander of his swift boats and that as commander he was the one charged with citing people in his command for commendations, an interesting fact to say the least....
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; kerryrecord; phony; vietnamveterans
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A manufactured candidate with a manufactured past. Just like his hero, JFK.
To: Apolitical
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posted on
03/06/2004 8:56:42 AM PST
by
kenth
(My kingdom for a cheeseburger!)
To: Apolitical
Is He A Fake War Hero & Patriot?Maybe he's a fake war hero & fake patriot.
3
posted on
03/06/2004 9:00:14 AM PST
by
Consort
To: Consort
"
Is He A Fake War Hero & Patriot? "Maybe he's a fake war hero & fake patriot".
Right.
To: Apolitical
Show us your scars Mr. Kerry.
Yes, I'm Doubting Thomas. Show me the scars from each of your Purple Hearts and Silver Star. Show us the written reports detailing the events surrounding the actions....but the scars....show me the scars, Mr. Kerry!
I'll bet money that he has none to speak of.
5
posted on
03/06/2004 9:03:27 AM PST
by
DCPatriot
To: DCPatriot
Isn't he also, unlike Bush, hiding his medical records?
6
posted on
03/06/2004 9:05:32 AM PST
by
Dante3
To: Apolitical
The simple fact that he has persistently been a Communist dupe and tried to limit the US ability to engage such regimes is pure example of his unfitness for President.
7
posted on
03/06/2004 9:05:45 AM PST
by
atomicpossum
(Fun pics in my profile)
To: kenth
I am a veteran from WWII and I can say that I have known many genuine war heros.......non of those I have known ever tried to capitalize on their heroic actions such as John Kerry has done.
He was in action for only four months and accepted a third Purple Heart award which them made him eligible to leave the war zone for home. I have never seen full reports as to the extent of his injuries but understand he was out of action only one time because of his "injury" and that was only for a day or two.
I knew many purple hearts to be awarded for very minor injuries during my time in the service and most of us knew who the fake heros were.
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:06:14 AM PST
by
Oldsailor
To: Apolitical
There's another aspect of this ....
If Kerry has faked his records, the proud Teresa is NOT going to be happy.
She'll be deeply embarrassed amongst her elite friends (and the nation) that she
fell for this guy. The word "maim" comes to mind.
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:08:52 AM PST
by
jigsaw
(God Bless Our Troops.)
To: Apolitical
General Giap Say:
VOTE FOR KETCHUP BOY!!!
Owl_Eagle
" Liberalism is simply reflexively finding
the most counter intuitive position
and defending it against all reason."
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:09:04 AM PST
by
End Times Sentinel
(I'm going to warn my kids about the dangers of excessive drinking through example.)
To: Apolitical
"Is He A Fake War Hero & Patriot?This is just a rhetorical question, right? I mean, we do know the answer to this, don't we?
To: DCPatriot
Show us your scars Mr. Kerry.There are no scars. No vet, especially one who claims to have been so profoundly impacted by battle, votes to send our troops to war only to claim his position was just a bluff. I can think of no greater evidence that proves that this man is a fraud, as willing today as he was over thirty years ago to use the US Military to advance his own career and political aspirations.
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:20:34 AM PST
by
Dolphy
To: Apolitical
This is absolutely bloody disgusting to me! Unbelievable.
Jim
Those may sound like harsh words, but one real "expert" who would know has said Kerry's efforts after his time in Vietnam actually helped the enemy, the North Vietnamese. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the general in charge of the North Vietnamese military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975, credited Kerry's 'Vietnam Veterans Against the War' with helping North Vietnam achieve victory. Giap has said that he believes groups such as Kerry's and the American media played an important part in Hanoi finally winning the war.
To: Apolitical
The answer to both questions is YES and YES
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:21:49 AM PST
by
clamper1797
(Conservative by nature ... Republican in Spirit ... Patriot by Heart ... and Anti Liberal BY GOD)
To: Oldsailor
God Bless you. The uncle of a friend of mine was a medic in Vietnam. He was wounded (his jacket had two bullet holes just off center, but he never elaborated on the injuries) while administering to the wounded. He never mentioned it,my friend did, and completely downplayed his heroic efforts to save others.
15
posted on
03/06/2004 9:30:17 AM PST
by
kenth
(My kingdom for a cheeseburger!)
To: Apolitical
Kerry's "war hero" status is hanging by one of the threads his medals are hanging from.The only one I hear calling Kerry a war hero is Kerry.
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:43:41 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Wedding: A funeral where you get to smell your own flowers.)
To: Apolitical
And I'll bet Hitlery and Booba are just licking their chops waiting for the opportunity for Hitlery to take over completely. Just a matter of time. She's running. It's too bad because the two of them should be in jail; instead of where they are. It's also too bad some are just blinded by scum like them.
To: Oldsailor
A combination of a couple of things going on about John Kerry. The upper brass in the Navy WANTED him away of any further engagement with the enemy, as he was about to turn into a Rambo-type robo-warrior, and a repeat of the fiasco that occurred at My Lai, with Lt. William Calley. The swift issuance of the three Purple Heart awards provided a cover story that made a plausible explanation, and the Silver Star was to ward off future questions.
This strategy by the US Navy would only work if John Kerry would keep his mouth shut about a lot of the events that led up to his transfer. But being a vain child of relative privilege, and with an opportunity to turn his experiences to political advantage, Kerry staked out several positions, which would seem to contradict all that the military engagement in Viet Nam was originally about, when the US first went in there. Admittedly, whatever objectives the US President in 1968 was pursuing, had changed considerably from the original objective in 1961, which was to assist the Vietnamese of the South in their civil war they had with Communist insurgents from the North, from Laos, and from Cambodia.
Keep in mind that Nixon INHERITED a war in 1969, he did not initiate it. And he had to change the rules of engagement to encompass daring new direction, to compensate for some badly considered strategies that had made the US forces hostage to the least whim of the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. The US military, and support from the covert operatives, were making huge strides in recovering the intiative on the combat operations, driving the VC and NVA back at almost every opportunity.
The Gentlemen of the Left were INSULTED that this upstart, this retread, this Red-baiter, Richard Nixon, was so cheeky as to make a military move against the simple agrarian reformers of Viet Nam, WHEN ALL THE OTHER SIDE WANTED WAS PEACE! Did Nixon want to drag Red China into the war? What was he thinking? The real anti-war rhetoric was cranked up as a countermeasure to the relative success the US was enjoying militarily. It was one thing to contain the worst behavior of some peasants, it was another thing entirely to try to deliberately destroy the "progressive" regime of Ho Chi Minh. That had to be stopped, even if it meant taking Nixon down by impeachment. There may have been serious consideration of even possibly assassinating Nixon, but then, Spiro Agnew would become President. And the Left was even more frightened of that possibility, than they were with keeping Nixon.
You know the history. Spiro became the first target, and he was replaced, in one of the strangest and most bizarre tales of government intrigue since the days of Prince Machiavelli, replaced by a person the Left considered to be an amiable dupe, Gerald Ford. Nixon was practically frog-marched out of office, not by the Democrats, but by the Republicans.
Of course, the Viet Nam war was over, the US having been driven out, not so much by the VC or NVA, as by a total collapse in the will to prosecute the war. Part of the collapse of will may be ascribed directly to the agitation that John Kerry engaged in, for personal political gain, here in the US.
Nothing has changed in over thirty years.
To: Apolitical
War Hero<>Patriot.
I can't know what he actually did in Viet Nam saving the guy sounds good to me. Jumping out of the boat sounds stupid to me, but I wasn't there.
I do know what he has done since he got back gave aid and comfort to and consorted with enemies of the USA and amassed the most horrendous voting record in the Senate.
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:56:35 AM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
To: Apolitical
Didn't the REAL Vietnam Vets turn his back on his speech at the Wall Memorial opening ceremony?? Wish there were a few pictures of that.
Pray for W and The Truth
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posted on
03/06/2004 9:58:26 AM PST
by
bray
(Vote Yaaawn Tax & Kerry, the Bridge to The Great Depression)
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