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To: bluefish
Who said it was a single issue? More like the straw that broke the camels back for many here Jorge.

I'm waiting to hear what all the other "straws"are, and how they are so much more important than Bush's impressive list of conservative accomplishments.

Besides, allowing full-blown illegal immigration to take place with nary an effort to stop it - indeed, encouraging it! - is not a small pet peeve. It is an economic nuclear bomb. Your comment is like saying people shouldn't be upset just because of a single bomb - if that bomb happened to take out an entire city!

Let me see if I get this.
These illegal immigrants are already here and have been working in the USA, most of them for many years.

But if we give them some degree of legal status under a guest worker program, all of sudden their presence will become a "bomb"that blows up America.

And this "threat"; means we should elect a liberal Democrat to the White House.
Right.

118 posted on 03/06/2004 9:48:12 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
I think this is an impossible group-

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you..

124 posted on 03/06/2004 9:52:58 PM PST by Porterville (random acts of kindness? Hate free zones? Kindness is in every act of hate I do.)
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To: Jorge
And this "threat"; means we should elect a liberal Democrat to the White House. Right.

With a Republican Congress, I would have no problem with that. It wouldn't be the best of all worlds. Divided, do nothing government. But at least it would stop this, CAFTA and FTAA in it's tracks.

Maybe next time we get a pubbie in office, they might worry more about America than Mexico!

134 posted on 03/06/2004 10:03:22 PM PST by navyblue
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To: Jorge
I'm waiting to hear what all the other "straws"are...

Go back and re-read the thread. Heck, go back and re-read the forum. Pay attention. There is no sense me repeating the laundry list of leftist-style pandering engaged in by our President.

But if we give them some degree of legal status under a guest worker program, all of sudden their presence will become a "bomb"that blows up America.

If we reward illegals with legal status, more will come. In fact, more are coming already, just in response to Bush's words.

Regarding a "bomb," I was using an analogy to help you understand that illegal immigration is just a "single puny issue." Illegal Immigration is to Issues as Nuclear Warhead is to Bombs. You didn't do well on the SATs, did you?

And this "threat"; means we should elect a liberal Democrat to the White House. Right.

As fast as Bush is running to the left on a lot of issues, we may already have one in the minds of many Conservatives, and he needs them to win. If they sit out or if he ticks them off too much, he is toast. With respect to the Illegal Immigrant issue, he could lose a lot of the middle, and it won't win him any favor from the left.

I will grant that Bush has done some good things - War on Terror and Taxes. Other than that, I'm scratching my head. He throws the social conservatives a bone every now and then too, mainly on issues a President can't do much about. Those are designed to keep people like you on board.

Nevertheless, if he doesn't quit spending like a drunken sailor and if he continues to ignore the immigration problem, those who are enamored with Bush b/c he is a decent man and those who only vote on the abortion topic will not be enough to keep him in office.

218 posted on 03/06/2004 11:09:01 PM PST by bluefish
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To: Jorge
118 - "But if we give them some degree of legal status under a guest worker program, all of sudden their presence will become a "bomb"that blows up America."

DUH !!! - You finally figured it out? That there are 100 million more on the border waiting for the signal to invade.
368 posted on 03/07/2004 4:51:03 PM PST by XBob
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