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New Zealand Prime Minister reveals Afghan mission for SAS
The Dominion Post, Wellington, New Zealand ^ | March 9 2004 | Vernon Small

Posted on 03/08/2004 11:22:36 AM PST by shaggy eel

UPDATED REPORT

The veil of silence over planned SAS deployments has been partly lifted after the Government said 50 elite troops would be sent to Afghanistan.

The announcement yesterday breaks with the Government's policy of strict secrecy which surrounded the Special Air Service deployment to Afghanistan in 2002 and which was sharply criticised by Opposition parties.

The main SAS contingent will go for up to six months from April 1 and will be under the command of a New Zealand officer. It will specialise in planning and executing long-range reconnaissance and "direct action missions".

Prime Minister Helen Clark said the new openness came after previous SAS missions had been disclosed on the Internet by other countries, such as the United States, keen to praise New Zealand's efforts. "It became less and less tenable to say less than I have said to you today."

The Government had given thought to the way the previous media policy operated, she said. "We are giving more information at this time but don't expect daily or weekly reports."

The policy was discussed with the armed forces, which were happy with the new level of disclosure.

She had previously said that to confirm SAS movements would place the troops in jeopardy.

The troops would work with other countries' special forces but would not operate outside Afghanistan, Miss Clark said.

The senior New Zealand officer would give the "red card" if an activity did not comply with clear rules of engagement.

The commitment was part of stepped-up international efforts to fight terrorism before Afghanistan elections scheduled for June.

Green MP Keith Locke welcomed the end of "the farcical blackout" of information about the SAS but he criticised the deployment as "buying back" into US President George W Bush's war.

National Party deputy leader Gerry Brownlee said the announcement was a desperate measure at a time when New Zealand was trying to open the door to free-trade talks with the US.

Miss Clark said the frigate Te Mana would return to the Gulf region for four months from next month as part of the maritime interdiction operating against al Qaeda and the Taleban. If required, a P3 Orion aircraft would join the operation from July next year.

Two non-commissioned officers helping with training the Afghan national army would stay on till June next year.

The SAS deployment would help extend the reach of the Afghan transitional authority into all regions of Afghanistan and help deliver humanitarian aid and development assistance, Miss Clark said.

New Zealand's previous SAS deployment in Afghanistan was of a similar size and ran from December 2001 till December 2002.

"None of these deployments are without risk, of course. All deployments into Afghanistan are classified as high-risk," she said.

The frigate in the Gulf region was seen as a medium-risk deployment.

The cost of the moves, excluding the Orion, would be $17 million.

The Government has already announced an extension for 12 months, till September next year, of a reconstruction team in Barmian province at a cost of about $25 million.

Green MP Keith Locke said on National Radio that the Government was sending the SAS "back to the frontline".

A Human Rights Watch report, released yesterday, was a good example of why New Zealand should not be going back there, he said.

"It talks about the process of the American war being indiscriminate fire, detaining all men of military age in the vicinity of an operation and it says the US' military approach has angered many Afghans and 'lessened their willingness to co-operate with US forces'."

"New Zealand as an upholder of multilateralism and reconstruction and peace building shouldn't be involved at the frontline with the sorts of operations that are going to make us complicit in what has just been talked about by Human Rights Watch.

"If we capture prisoners there in Afghanistan, they're handed over to the Americans... and as the Human Rights Watch has said these people end up photographed naked, deprived of sleep for several weeks, beaten unconscious, held in solitary confinement and shackled, you know, against any UN or Geneva conventions.

"That's not the sort of thing we should be involved with."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; deployment; helenclark; multinational; newzealand; oef; sas
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1 posted on 03/08/2004 11:22:36 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Brian Allen; AMNZ; Neophyte
FYI
2 posted on 03/08/2004 11:23:11 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: cyborg; concordKIWI; Ferdinand; toddst; Walkingfeather; mgstarr; Willie Green
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3 posted on 03/08/2004 11:26:05 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: blackie; Piquaboy; Piefloater; KangarooJacqui; Travis McGee
FYI
4 posted on 03/08/2004 11:28:05 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Hot Tabasco; knighthawk; The Iguana; KiaKaha; ErnBatavia; dansangel; Terriergal; Mark17
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5 posted on 03/08/2004 11:31:01 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Interesting ~ what do you think?
6 posted on 03/08/2004 11:38:00 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: shaggy eel
Would an election coming up have anything to do with this sudden openness?
7 posted on 03/08/2004 11:39:47 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: blackie
The policy was discussed with the armed forces, which were happy with the new level of disclosure. She had previously said that to confirm SAS movements would place the troops in jeopardy.

,,, the troops have pride in what they do and whom they fight alongside, unlike Klark, who wanted as little said about it as possible, whilst she was visiting Chirac and her Minister of Foreign Affairs was visiting Arafat.

8 posted on 03/08/2004 11:42:15 AM PST by shaggy eel
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,,, indeed it would. Race relations are at an all time low in New Zealand under the Labour government's stewardship, schools are being closed by the score and the fiscal surplus continues to grow past the $NZ6b point through overtaxation. Anything she can grasp at to deflect these issues, she will. Don Brash is on the up and up and Klark & Co have reason to worry. New Zealand has worked out what she's all about.
9 posted on 03/08/2004 11:46:44 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Ah ~ that makes it very clear ~ thanks!
10 posted on 03/08/2004 11:52:57 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: shaggy eel
Does this have anything to do with the recent free trade agreement that Australia signed with the US?
11 posted on 03/08/2004 12:39:58 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: shaggy eel
I saw this in STUFF this morning. Very interesting this new "openness" coming from her. This is just the start of her trying to win back the loss she has incurred. I'm glad that these circumstances have revealed her true evil self.
12 posted on 03/08/2004 1:44:10 PM PST by concordKIWI
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To: shaggy eel
Green MP Keith Locke said on National Radio that the Government was sending the SAS "back to the frontline".

Where else would you send the SAS?

How are the Greens faring with the recent change in the political climate in NZ? This Locke guy seems to be spouting the same sort of gibberish that we get in Australia from Tasmanian Senator Bob Brown.
13 posted on 03/08/2004 3:02:20 PM PST by Piefloater
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To: shaggy eel
New Zealand ***ROCKS***

Thank you for the ping (((((shaggy eel)))))))
14 posted on 03/08/2004 3:36:39 PM PST by dansangel (*PROUD to be a knuckle-dragging, toothless, inbred, right-wing, Southern, gun-toting Neanderthal *)
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Green MP Keith Locke welcomed the end of "the farcical blackout" of information about the SAS but he criticised the deployment as "buying back" into US President George W Bush's war.

Oh, FFS... who votes these people in? (the same people who vote for Bob Brown in Australia, I guess. Still, it's sickening...)
15 posted on 03/08/2004 3:56:04 PM PST by KangarooJacqui ("If you can't be a good example,you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Kerry campaign slogan?)
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To: Prodigal Son
Does this have anything to do with the recent free trade agreement that Australia signed with the US?

,,, not really. Our SAS has been involved in Afghanistan for over two years now and after Sept 11 our frigates, PC3 Orions and C-130s have been committed to Operation Enduring Freedom for quite some time.

16 posted on 03/08/2004 5:45:00 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Piefloater
,,, Keith Locke is the son of the [late] Jim and [late] Elsie Locke, staunch members of the New Zealand Communist Party. He was all for New Zealand being committed to medical aid only in the Iraq campaign.
17 posted on 03/08/2004 5:48:35 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
What will the remaining 50 members of Zooland military be doing while the others are gone??? Tea parties?
18 posted on 03/08/2004 5:49:54 PM PST by cynicom
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,,, forgot to mention... there's another 61 NZ military engineers in Iraq who have just got there, to assist with infrastructure rebuilding. Just quietly, they may be able to use the tea party timeslot to help look for those weapons of mass destruction.
19 posted on 03/08/2004 5:57:43 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Zooland, the land of love and sweetness and all things nice.

I understand they have a new movie out.."The Chinese are Coming"...Well I heard that.

20 posted on 03/08/2004 6:01:01 PM PST by cynicom
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