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Judge Rules 'Girls Gone Wild' Is Not Porn
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 09, 2004 | AP

Posted on 03/09/2004 11:17:45 PM PST by Redcloak

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My understanding (partly from reading an article on this ongoing case last year) is that GGW videos have "evolved" from the early days of just shooting girls out on the street.

As I understand it, they now convince a couple girls found on the street to go to a hotel room and play at lesbianism (kissing each other, undressing each other, fondling each other, etc.).

At least one such participant was supposedly underage and even some girls over 18 were allegedly being supplied drugs and alcohol by the crew.

A bar owner saying "she showed me an ID that said she was 21" is not a valid excuse and being shown a fake ID won't hold up in court when they try to enforce her contract.

41 posted on 03/10/2004 9:08:40 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: freedomluvr1778
So a minor using a fake ID to buy beer won't get a liquor store or bar cited?

There was little effort made in prosecuting those who exploited Traci Lords (even Penthouse published nude photos of her in the "Miss America" issue).

I believe that Rob Lowe did have some penalties for having sex with a minor even though he met her at a bar (meaning that she misrepresented her age).

42 posted on 03/10/2004 9:16:05 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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So a minor using a fake ID to buy beer won't get a liquor store or bar cited?

In most cases, they will, because the employee is supposed to know how to detect fake IDs. If charges are filed, and you end up in court, your only chance is to convince a jury there was no way you could have known it was fake.

There was little effort made in prosecuting those who exploited Traci Lords (even Penthouse published nude photos of her in the "Miss America" issue).

My understanding is it was because they had no case. She had fake birth certificates and other documents. It did lead to new laws and more stringent screening, though. I don't believe the defense of "she had fake documents" can be used today.

I believe that Rob Lowe did have some penalties for having sex with a minor even though he met her at a bar (meaning that she misrepresented her age).

I believe so too, and I disagree with that entire notion. A person in a bar has the reasonable expectation that anyone in there is at least 18 or older(or 21, depending on the rules, but at least 18).

43 posted on 03/10/2004 9:39:18 AM PST by freedomluvr1778
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To: unspun
Thank you so much for the ping! Indeed, these "difficult decisions should be made". It is the only way I know to protect the innocent.
44 posted on 03/10/2004 10:03:44 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Redcloak
Florida's child pornography law makes the depiction of "sexual conduct" illegal and defines that term to include physical contact. There was no physical contact in the video.

Not the judge's fault that Florida's law was poorly written. Under a strict reading of this law, and based on the facts of the case, the judge ruled correctly.

45 posted on 03/10/2004 2:22:01 PM PST by Modernman ("The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must." - Thucydides)
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To: Redcloak
I think this judge will be "targeted" along with the filmmaker soon.................................

46 posted on 03/10/2004 2:24:54 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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Not the judge's fault that Florida's law was poorly written. Under a strict reading of this law, and based on the facts of the case, the judge ruled correctly.

Some "conservatives" want judicial activism, so long as they get the "right" result.

47 posted on 03/10/2004 2:32:11 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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