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The Pentagon's Secret Scream: Sonic devices are being deployed. (Crying Lib Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 03/07/04 | William B. Arkin

Posted on 03/10/2004 5:27:27 AM PST by fsorbello

The Pentagon's Secret Scream: Sonic devices that can inflict pain--or even permanent deafness—are being deployed.

(Source: Los Angeles Times; published March 7, 2004)

(Reproduced courtesy of William B. Arkin)

SOUTH POMFRET, Vt. - Marines arriving in Iraq this month as part of a massive troop rotation will bring with them a high-tech weapon never before used in combat - or in peacekeeping. The device is a powerful megaphone the size of a satellite dish that can deliver recorded warnings in Arabic and, on command, emit a piercing tone so excruciating to humans, its boosters say, that it causes crowds to disperse, clears buildings and repels intruders.

"[For] most people, even if they plug their ears, [the device] will produce the equivalent of an instant migraine," says Woody Norris, chairman of American Technology Corp., the San Diego firm that produces the weapon. "It will knock [some people] on their knees."

American Technology says its new product "is designed to determine intent, change behavior and support various rules of engagement." The company is careful in its public relations not to refer to the megaphone as a weapon, or to dwell on the debilitating pain American forces will be able to deliver with it. The military has been equally reticent on the subject.

And that's a problem. The new sound weapon might, in some scenarios, save lives. It might provide a good alternative to lethal force in riot situations, as its proponents assert. But the U.S. is making a huge mistake by trying to quietly deploy a new pain-inducing weapon without first airing all of the legal, policy and human rights issues associated with it.

This is a weapon unlike any other used by the military, and it is certain to provoke public outcry and the conspiracy theories that often greet new U.S. military technology. If the military feels that its new-style weaponry brings something important to the battlefield, and if testing has shown it to be safe, then why not make our reasoning – and research - transparent to the world?

Nonlethal weapons have been promoted by a small circle of boosters for nearly 15 years as something increasingly necessary for the U.S. military in its growing peacekeeping, urban-combat and force-protection missions. Some of the weaponry championed by the group, like rubber bullets, flash-bang grenades and, more recently, electromuscular disruptive devices, or Tasers, has already been deployed.

But the more exotic weapons - including acoustic, laser, and high-powered microwave devices - have not until now been fielded, held up by legal and ethical questions. Despite intense lobbying, over the years the Pentagon leadership has been skeptical of such "wonder weapons." In 1995, then-Secretary of Defense William Perry decided to ban Pentagon development of nonlethal laser weapons intended to permanently blind. His decision led to a subsequent international ban.

So shouldn't we have a similar discussion about high-intensity sound, which can cause permanent hearing loss or even cellular damage? The new megaphone being deployed to Iraq can operate at 145 decibels at 300 yards, according to American Technology, well above the normal threshold for pain. The company posits a scenario in which Al Qaeda terrorists would run screaming from caves after being subjected to a blast of high-decibel sound from the devices, their hands covering their ears. But in Baghdad or other Iraqi towns, where there are crowds and buildings, the sick and elderly, as well as children, are likely to be in the weapon's range.

Proponents of nonlethal weapons argue that pain and hearing loss, if they were to occur, are certainly preferable to death, which is always possible when lethal force is applied. But this argument ignores realities on the ground. Last week, as I watched televised images of angry Iraqis pelting U.S. soldiers with rocks when they arrived to assist those injured in suicide bombings at mosques, I couldn't help but wonder whether the presence of a sound weapon to disperse those crowds would just escalate hostilities.

Last month, the Council on Foreign Relations issued a task force report on nonlethal weapons, arguing that their widespread availability might have helped in the immediate post-combat period in Iraq to reduce looting and sabotage. The council threw its weight behind greater investment in these technologies partly based on a Joint Chiefs of Staff "mission needs statement" signed last December. "U.S. military forces lack the ability to engage targets located where the application of lethal [weapon fire] would be counterproductive to overall campaign objectives," the Joint Chiefs concluded.

The Council on Foreign Relations recognized that the effect of nonlethal weapons is mostly "psychological - persuading people that they would much rather be someplace else, or on our side rather than opposing U.S. military forces." It warned that "television coverage of encounters involving [nonlethal weapons] can still be repugnant, and it would be desirable to provide reliable information to minimize unwarranted criticism."

Yet after paying lip service to the very psychological and political fallout that could result from the employment of novel technologies like acoustic weapons or high-powered microwaves, the council task force urged that prototype nonlethal weapons - that is, weapons just like American Technology's new sound weapon - "be placed with our operating forces" to test their efficacy and create greater demand among combat commanders.

Is actual combat in a foreign country the appropriate place to test a new weapon? Apparently, we are about to find out.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; marines; nonlethalweapons; pentagon; weapons
This guy hates the idea and rails about the legal aspects of this. I kind of like the idea of using non-lethal weapons adn testing them in an already hostile environment.
1 posted on 03/10/2004 5:27:27 AM PST by fsorbello
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To: fsorbello
Primal scream machine.
2 posted on 03/10/2004 5:32:11 AM PST by rhombus
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To: fsorbello
This guy's right, they should use the traditional methods like M16's.
3 posted on 03/10/2004 5:35:07 AM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
Or Yoko Ono music
4 posted on 03/10/2004 5:36:35 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Sorry, Yoko Ono is banned by the Geneva Convention...

To me, the problem with these weapons is that they are much more likely to be deployed in a domestic situation. The military would have a difficult time using deadly force on an American crowd. But non-leathal weapons are much more palatable to the politicians.

There is a limit on how effective I want our military to be in terms of crowd control and suppressing dissent. If these weapons are perfected overseas, it is only a matter of time before they are applied at home.

Remember the bunny scream tapes used at Waco?

5 posted on 03/10/2004 5:49:36 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Q: Why does Kerry wear one brown and one black shoe? A: So one shoe always matches his pants!)
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To: bondjamesbond
I belive at least one of those sounds is Hilary getting her b*alls caught in a bread slicer.
6 posted on 03/10/2004 5:53:43 AM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: fsorbello
The guy opposes it because, like all Democrat voting leftists, he despises anything that enhances American military might, power, and influence.
7 posted on 03/10/2004 5:56:21 AM PST by MrB
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To: fsorbello
I think I'd rather they just shot all the trouble makers over there. Do we have that many bullets?
8 posted on 03/10/2004 5:57:43 AM PST by kjam22
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To: fsorbello
If the writer is concerned about the "legal aspects" of deploying a non-lethal crowd control device then what his opinion is of Daisy Cutters and Cluster Bombs? Don't answer that, I think I know.
9 posted on 03/10/2004 5:58:12 AM PST by katana
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To: bondjamesbond
I'd rather that than shooting at us. Anyway, a Dem is more likely to use the military on us and they don't pay attention to the law anyway.
10 posted on 03/10/2004 6:02:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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"Is actual combat in a foreign country the appropriate place to test a new weapon?"

Absolutely not, we should be testing it in San Francisco on the gays lining up for marriage licenses...if this works on them it will work on anybody..

11 posted on 03/10/2004 6:03:49 AM PST by kt56
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To: fsorbello; Admin Moderator
Is actual combat in a foreign country the appropriate place to test a new weapon?

No! It should be tested at the L.A. Times building.

Admin Moderator: This might need excerpting.

12 posted on 03/10/2004 6:04:40 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: fsorbello
Proponents of nonlethal weapons argue that pain and hearing loss, if they were to occur, are certainly preferable to death, which is always possible when lethal force is applied.

Yeah, rumor has it that thermobaric bombs may be lethal.

But this argument ignores realities on the ground. Last week, as I watched televised images of angry Iraqis pelting U.S. soldiers with rocks when they arrived to assist those injured in suicide bombings at mosques, I couldn't help but wonder whether the presence of a sound weapon to disperse those crowds would just escalate hostilities.

Let's see, our guys are getting pelted with rocks (not little pebbles, mind you, but ROCKS - which can kill or seriously injure someone - while they were trying to help those wounded by a terrorist. How would we have been worse off by zapping them with 145 decibels and dispersing the crowd. What would they do, start throwing rocks? If they had guns (i.e. escalating the hostilities), it is obvious that they'd have already used them - how would escalation have been possible?

This guy is a complete moron, as evidenced by his inability to accurately report facts or logically reason through a problem. He needs to go to the hospital so that they can re-establish the connection between his 2 neurons.

13 posted on 03/10/2004 7:15:12 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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Let's see, our guys are getting pelted with rocks (not little pebbles, mind you, but ROCKS - which can kill or seriously injure someone - while they were trying to help those wounded by a terrorist.

One thing that is obvious upon watching those videos, is that Iraq does not have a culture which incorporates things like baseball. The Palestinians have learned to throw, but after watching the Iraqis, more than the fact that they are rioting, I am left with the impression that these people can't hit the broad side of a barn if aiming at it. I suppose that's something to be thankful for.

14 posted on 03/10/2004 8:13:58 AM PST by lepton
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To: fsorbello

15 posted on 03/10/2004 8:23:25 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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