Posted on 03/10/2004 7:40:40 AM PST by BenLurkin
Oh really? Let's see, in 1986 when she got pregnant, there already was Margaret Thatcher, Princess Diana, Phyllis Schafly, Betty Friedan, Jane Pauley, Barbara Walters, etc. etc. etc.
People like this woman and her family have no idea who those women are. You don't get it, and maybe you're lucky. They only learn from their insular environment, so these women don't exist to them. College doesn't exist for them. When you go from middle class existence into a neighborhood where you're the only white, English speaking family, you learn about the other side of the coin. We see things differently than they do. We have cultural differences going on here. I know about these parts of town. This is why I'm making a fuss about calling this woman names.
These folks are a different breed of cat. Aunt Jodi is 21, and the oldest is 18. Wanna bet they have the same daddy? I hate to speculate, but things like that go on in those cultures. Child gets abused, so it's her fault... Kick her butt out and protect the abuser. That's why I am so angry about people calling her names. Her life was misery, let's hope that she is with Jesus now, and He will watch over her kids.
I guess I just have a different perspective than you do.
Oh yes, the old liberal line "You're fortunate to be rich". Or as Dick Gephhardt said "Winning life's lottery". Puhleeze. It's called hard work, good decision making, and being responsible.
Bullshit! You are missing the whole point. This woman was abused as a child. 11-12 yrs old is a child in my book. It has nothing to do with the "politics of envy". My parents grew up during the depression, and I finally showed up after they had given up having children. My dad was 50 when I was born. They taught me the old time values, including compassion.
You mean the first two guys weren't losers? By this time her poor parenting excuse that you claim is no longer a valid excuse. And, in addition, father #2 must have good grounds to keep those 3 kids and not her. Like slutty behavior perhaps?
Lolololol! Of course they probably were losers. The first one was a felony child abuser, IF he was the father of the first one. Just what does a 12 yr old pregnant child do when she is kicked out of her house? You sure as hell won't go to the cops. You will find someone to take care of you. Living on the streets and getting into drugs etc, will certainly teach you discernment towards your partners.
Like I said, that may have been a valid excuse for children #1,2,3 but not for children 4,5,6.
You don't get it. In that culture, a woman alone is a bad place to be in. She has to have a man with her for safety reasons. He wants her pregnant, so should she abort her children? Fat chance that she even knew about birth control, and I'll bet if she suggested it her head would go through a wall.
You remind me of apologists for murderers who say that they shouldn't be executed because of a poor childhood and poor parenting.
She is not a murderer. Maybe I should ping the prolife crowd? She made unfortunate life choices, and it ended up killing her. I believe that normal human beings have a choice to refrain from killing someone out of anger or greed. If they can't handle their impulse controls, then it's not society's problem.
What we have here is failure to communicate.
Still, the best thing to do is walk away. FreeRepublic is a huge forum and there are other opportunities to express yourself for the greater good.
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She chose... poorly.
The saying about acorns and trees comes to mind.
The word for which you search is "loser."
The old-fashioned among us consider sex outside marriage a mark of sluthood.
The most remarkable picture I took was a closeup of a street gutter with an admixture of dead leaves, paper wrappers, silt and muddy water.
Nobody ever saw it for what it was.
Most thought it was an abstract autumn leaf-turning image; it always looked to me like a life wasted.
This thread was interesting and challenging for me personally. The story broke my heart, but it is so illustrative of so much that is wrong today in our society.
It came back to life with post #85.
I'm chagrined that I fell for yet another insider. Damn the luck!
Thank you. Your comments capture the tragic pathos quite well.
The taxpayers pay the freight for this idiot child and her 6 offspring.
It sounds cruel, but I'll say it: Mother's death is probably the best thing that could ever happen to her little girls.
phoenix thread...
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