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To: mrustow
I am not an expert, but wasn't the whole 1965 voting rights act about securing the intent of the 15th Amendment for blacks? I mean, there were real problems, so I understand (I am not that old) with blacks realizing their equal representation rights because some officials were deluting or otherwise denying them their voting rights. I realize there are many false claims of racism today, but you do not need to go too far back in our history to realize that blacks were in fact treated unfairly on issues as basic as their voting rights. The bias was so obvious. They had separate bathrooms for gosh sakes.

Equating the history and struggles of a people who were treated differently solely because of their skin pigmentation to the history of the natural function of culture to order itself with taboos against certain immoral behaviors is like saying zero is equal to infinity simply because they are both numbers.

12 posted on 03/10/2004 10:59:37 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: King Black Robe
I am not an expert, but wasn't the whole 1965 voting rights act about securing the intent of the 15th Amendment for blacks? I mean, there were real problems, so I understand (I am not that old) with blacks realizing their equal representation rights because some officials were deluting or otherwise denying them their voting rights. I realize there are many false claims of racism today, but you do not need to go too far back in our history to realize that blacks were in fact treated unfairly on issues as basic as their voting rights. The bias was so obvious. They had separate bathrooms for gosh sakes.

I'm not denying any of that. I'm simply saying that the civil rights movement was always about more than equality. Just check the words to "I Have a Dream," if MLK's heirs haven't yet made that impossible, without paying.

Books I've read on race in America -- including Abigail and Stephan Thernstrom's America in Black and White -- have noted that the movement always called for quotas. And the 1964 Civil Rights Act and 1965 Voting Rights Act have proved racist nightmares. The Voting Rights Act, now that you mention it, has been used to end democratic elections in many areas, and replace them with fixed referenda guaranteed to elect a black. And even the CRA, which on the face of it, makes all racial discrimination illegal (i.e., merely repeats the 14th Amendment), has been used to enforce anti-white discrimination. And that was apparently its intent!

I realize that one hears today much about "the content of one's character," but that's just the neocon MLK Worship Society; not even King believed that. He wasn't a national leader; he was a black leader.

29 posted on 03/10/2004 1:43:04 PM PST by mrustow
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