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Return of the Marines
NRO ^ | March 11, 2004 | W. Thomas Smith Jr.

Posted on 03/11/2004 7:58:39 AM PST by scarface367

Beginning this month, leathernecks from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force will return to Iraq, replacing elements of the Army's 82nd Airborne Division. The return of the Marines is surely bad news for those desperate to undermine the liberation of Iraq.

Not to take anything away from the U.S. Army — its soldiers have performed magnificently, and will no doubt continue to do so — but America's enemies have a particular fear of U.S. Marines.

During the first Gulf War in 1991, over 100,000 Iraqi soldiers were deployed along the Iraqi-Kuwaiti coastline in anticipation of a landing by some 17,000 U.S. Marines. Terrified by what they had been taught about the combat prowess of Marines, the Iraqi soldiers had nicknamed them "Angels of Death." The moniker — first published by Pulitzer-winner Rick Atkinson in his best-selling Crusade — carried over into the second Gulf war, last year, as the 1st Marine Division swept across the Iraqi plains. Attacking American forces were unsettling enough, but reports of the seaborne "Angels of Death" being among the lead elements were paralyzing to many Iraqi combatants.

Despite less armor than other American ground forces, the Marines were among the first to fight their way into Baghdad. And when intelligence indicated that foreign troops were coming to the aid of Iraqi diehards, Marine Brig. Gen. John Kelly stated, "we want all Jihad fighters to come here. That way we can kill them all before they get bus tickets to New York City."

Typical Marine bravado, some say. But it works.

Best-selling author Tom Clancy once wrote, "Marines are mystical. They have magic." It is this same magic, Clancy added, that "may well frighten potential opponents more than the actual violence Marines can generate in combat."

Fear of Marines is not a new phenomenon, nor is it unique to Iraqi soldiers.

Established in 1775, the U.S. Marine Corps came of age in World War I during the 1918 Chateau Thierry campaign near the French village of Bouresches. There, Marines assaulted a line of German machine-gun nests on an old hunting preserve known as Belleau Wood. The fighting was terrible. Those Marines who weren't cut down by the enemy guns captured the nests in a grisly close-quarters slugfest.

The shocked Germans nicknamed their foes, teufelhunden (devil dogs).

"Marines are considered a sort of elite Corps designed to go into action outside the United States," read a German intelligence report following the battle. "They consider their membership in the Marine Corps to be something of an honor. They proudly resent any attempts to place their regiments on a par with other infantry regiments."

Twenty-four years later as the 1st Marine Division was steaming toward Guadalcanal, a Japanese radio propagandist taunted that which the Japanese soldiers feared most. "Where are the famous United States Marines hiding?" the announcer asked. "The Marines are supposed to be the finest soldiers in the world, but no one has seen them yet?"

Over the next three years, Marines would further their reputation at places with names like Tarawa, Saipan, and Iwo Jima.

That reputation carried over into the Korean War.

"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the American Marines," confessed a captured North Korean major. It was a fear echoed by his Chinese allies. In late 1950, Chinese premier Mao Tse Tung put out a contract on the 1st Marine Division. The Marine division, according to Mao in written orders to the commander of the Chinese 9th Army Group, "has the highest combat effectiveness in the American armed forces. It seems not enough for our four divisions to surround and annihilate its two regiments. You should have one or two more divisions as a reserve force."

Though costly for both sides, the subsequent Chinese trap failed to destroy the 1st Marine Division.

U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Frank Lowe later admitted, "The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!"

Over a decade later, Marines were the first major ground combat force in Vietnam. Army Gen. William C. Westmoreland, who commanded all American military forces in that country, conservatively stated he "admired the élan of Marines." But despite the admiration, some Army leaders found their equally proficient units wanting for similar respect.

In 1982, during the invasion of Grenada, Army General John Vessey, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, telephoned one of his officers and demanded to know why there were "two companies of Marines running all over the island and thousands of Army troops doing nothing. What the hell is going on?"

The reputation of Marines stems from a variety of factors: The Marine Corps is the smallest, most unique branch of the U.S. armed forces. Though it is organized as a separate armed service, it is officially a Naval infantry/combined-arms force overseen by the secretary of the Navy. The Corps' philosophical approach to training and combat differs from other branches. Marine boot camp — more of a rite-of-passage than a training program — is the longest and toughest recruit indoctrination program of any of the military services. Men and women train separately. All Marines from private to Commandant are considered to be first-and-foremost riflemen. And special-operations units in the Marines are not accorded the same respect as they are in other branches. The Marines view special operations as simply another realm of warfighting. Marines are Marines, and no individual Marine or Marine unit is considered more elite than the other.

Consequently, newly minted Marines believe themselves to be superior to other soldiers, spawning understandable resentment from other branches.

But do Marines actually fight better than other soldiers? Rivals argue it's not so much their ability to fight — though that's never been a question — but that Marines are simply masters in the art of public relations. President Harry Truman once stated that Marines "have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's." Fact is, while other armed services have lured recruits with promises of money for college, "a great way of life," or "being all you can be;" the Marines have asked only "for a few good men [and today, women]" with the mettle to join their ranks.

Not surprisingly, there have been numerous unsuccessful efforts — primarily on the part of some Army and Navy officers — to have the Corps either disbanded or absorbed into the Army or Navy. Most of those efforts took place in the first half of the 20th Century. But even after the Marines' stellar performance in World War II, Army General Frank Armstrong proposed bringing them into the Army fold and condescendingly referring to the Corps as "a small bitched-up army talking Navy lingo."

As late as 1997, Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara Lister took aim at the Marines. "I think the Army is much more connected to society than the Marines are." Lister said before an audience at Harvard University. "Marines are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous."

Of course, the Commandant of the Marine Corps demanded an apology. Lister was fired. And Marines secretly said among themselves, "Yes we are extremists. We are dangerous. That's why we win wars and are feared throughout the world."

Despite its detractors, the Marines have become a wholly American institution — like baseball players, cowboys, and astronauts — in the eyes of most Americans. Marines indeed may be extreme, but America loves them, extremism and all. And fortunately for America, her enemies in the war against terror will continue to shudder upon hearing, "the Marines have landed."

— A former U.S. Marine infantry leader and paratrooper, W. Thomas Smith Jr. is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in a variety of national and international publications. His third book, Alpha Bravo Delta Guide to American Airborne Forces, has just been published.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1stmef; marines; oif2; rotation; wot
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1 posted on 03/11/2004 7:58:39 AM PST by scarface367
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To: scarface367
Ooh Rah!!

& Semper Fi!
2 posted on 03/11/2004 8:13:37 AM PST by sonofagun
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To: scarface367
The Marines come with a right tude and back it up.
3 posted on 03/11/2004 8:18:52 AM PST by demlosers
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To: scarface367
Priceless

As late as 1997, Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara Lister took aim at the Marines. "I think the Army is much more connected to society than the Marines are." Lister said before an audience at Harvard University. "Marines are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous."

Of course, the Commandant of the Marine Corps demanded an apology. Lister was fired. And Marines secretly said among themselves, "Yes we are extremists. We are dangerous. That's why we win wars and are feared throughout the world."

4 posted on 03/11/2004 8:21:59 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: scarface367
Some quotes that you may already know but others might not.

You don't hurt 'em if you don't hit 'em." (Lieutenant General Lewis B. Puller, USMC, 1962.)



"Retreat Hell! We're just attacking in another direction." (Attributed to Major General Oliver P. Smith, USMC, Korea, December 1950.)



"Goddam it, you'll never get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole! Follow me!" (Captain Henry P. "Jim" Crowe, USMC, Guadalcanal, 13 January 1943.)



"Come on, you sons of bitches-do you want to live forever?" (Attributed to Gunnery Sergeant Dan Daly, USMC, Belleau Wood, June 1918.)



"Once a Marine, always a Marine!" (MSgt Paul Woyshner, a 40-year Marine, is credited with originating this expression during a taproom argument with a discharged Marine.)



"I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like brilliant, it would really be an under-description of the absolutely superb job they did in breaching the so-called impenetrable barrier. . .Absolutely superb operation, a textbook, and I think it'll be studied for many, many years to come as the way to do it." (General H. Norman Schwarzkopf, USA, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 27 February 1991.)



"I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world." (General Douglas MacArthur, USA, outskirts of Seoul, 21 September 1950.)

"Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning." (Colonel David M. Shoup, USMC, Tarawa, 21 November 1943.)



"The deadliest weapon in the world is a MARINE and his rifle!"
GEN. PERSHING, US.ARMY

"We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem!"
CHESTY PULLER, USMC

"The more MARINES I have around the better I like it!"
GEN. MARK CLARK, U.S. ARMY

"I want you boys to hurry up and whip these Germans so we can get out to the Pacific to kick the s**t out of the purple-pissing Japanese, before the Godda**ed MARINES get all the credit!" Lt General George Patton, US Army 1945

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." GEORGE ORWELL


"A ship without MARINES is like a garment without buttons."
ADM. DAVID PORTER, USN

"The MARINES have landed and have the situation well in hand!"
RICHARD HARDING DAVIS

"Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency: we are winning!"
COL. DAVID M. SHOUP, USMC

"I can never again see a UNITED STATES MARINE without experiencing a feeling of reverence."
GEN. JOHNSON, U.S. ARMY

"The raising of that flag on Suribachi means a MARINE CORPS for the next 500 years."
JAMES FORRESTAL, SECRETARY OF THE NAVY

"Come on, you sons of b*****! Do you want to live forever?"
GySgt. DANIEL DALY, USMC



"We're not retreating, Hell! We're just attacking in a different direction!"
GEN. OLIVER SMITH, USMC



"I have just returned from visiting the MARINES at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!"
GEN. DOUGLAS MACARTHUR, U.S. ARMY

"So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction, those b*****ds won't get away this time!"
CHESTY PULLER, USMC



"We have two companies of MARINES running all over this island and thousands of ARMY troops doing nothing!"
GEN. JOHN VESSEY, CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS



"Retreat hell! We just got here!"
CAPT. LLOYD WILLIAMS, USMC



"The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of MARINES. LORD, how they could fight!"
MAJ. GEN. FRANK LOWE, U.S. ARMY

"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the AMERICAN MARINES."
CAPTURED NORTH KOREAN MAJOR



"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldier will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race!"
LT. GEN. LEWIS "CHESTY" PULLER, USMC



"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem."
PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985




"There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and those who have met them in battle. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion." Unknown



WE STOLE THE EAGLE FROM THE AIR FORCE, THE ANCHOR FROM THE NAVY AND THE ROPE FROM THE ARMY.

ON THE SEVENTH DAY WHILE GOD RESTED, WE OVERRAN HIS PERIMETER, STOLE THE GLOBE AND WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THE WHOLE SHOW EVER SINCE.



WE LIVE LIKE SOLDIERS, TALK LIKE SAILORS, AND SLAP THE HELL OUT OF BOTH OF THEM.



"WARRIORS BY DAY, LOVERS BY NIGHT, PROFESSIONALS BY CHOICE, AND MARINES BY THE GRACE OF GOD"

Semper Fi,
Kelly
"C" 1st Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division
Viet Nam 1969 & 1970
5 posted on 03/11/2004 8:23:14 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi "KERRY IS A LYING TRAITOR!")
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To: RaceBannon; SMEDLEYBUTLER; colorado tanker; archy; Cannoneer No. 4
Tell your friends.

Semper Fi,

TS

6 posted on 03/11/2004 8:25:21 AM PST by The Shrew (RightTalk - The New NPR)
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To: scarface367
You don't "become" a Marine, you are BORN a Marine, and even if you retire, you die a Marine.
7 posted on 03/11/2004 8:33:23 AM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: scarface367
He forgot to mention the other part of the Devil Dog story from WWI, the Germans discovered a large amount of their casualties had been shot right between the eyes at ranges of 300 yds or greater and this calling card let them know the Marines were in their sector! OOH RAH & SEMPER FI
8 posted on 03/11/2004 8:44:56 AM PST by MCRD
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To: ken5050
You'll like this!
9 posted on 03/11/2004 8:49:59 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: scarface367
Interestingly enough, the first Marines job was to shoot the sailors out of the other ships' rigging. The term Leatherneck came from the heavy leather collar Marines wore to protect their necks from sword cuts.
10 posted on 03/11/2004 8:53:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: kellynla

SEMPER FIDELIS

11 posted on 03/11/2004 8:58:31 AM PST by SENTINEL (USMC GWI (MY GOD IS GOD, ROCKCHUCKER !!))
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To: MCRD
Speaking strickly from a shooting ballistics POV, this sounds like an urban legend to me. A typical M1903 Springfield of the type issued in WWI would shoot about 2 MOA (minutes of accuracy or a bullet would hit within 2" of where it was aimed at 100 yards). I would buy that a large number were hit in the head at 300 yards but I am a bit leary of "right between the eyes".
12 posted on 03/11/2004 8:59:23 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: scarface367
I have always liked this quote:

"You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced, to the point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth- and the amusing thing about it is that they are...You should see the group about me as I write- dirty, bearded, their clothing food-spattered and filthy- they look like the castoffs of creation. Yet they have a sense of loyalty, generosity, even piety greater than any men I have ever known.

These rugged men have the simple piety of children. You can't help loving them, in spite of their language and their loose sense of private property. Don't ever feel sorry for a priest in the Marines. The last eight weeks have been the happiest and most contented in my life."

- Father Kevin Keaney, a Navy Chaplain assigned to the First Marine Division during the Chosin Reservoir campaign
13 posted on 03/11/2004 9:05:55 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I must disagree with you, I have an 03 Springfield (WWI vintage) and an 03-A3 Springfield (WWII vintage) and both shoot under 1" groups at 100 yards. Remember it ain't bragging if it's true.
14 posted on 03/11/2004 9:22:03 AM PST by MCRD
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To: kellynla
WE LIVE LIKE SOLDIERS, TALK LIKE SAILORS, AND SLAP THE HELL OUT OF BOTH OF THEM.

Semper Foo !! <|:-)~~

Goodnight Chesty, wherever you are!

15 posted on 03/11/2004 9:52:49 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA, Bring 'em home, NOW!)
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To: MCRD
With standard military issue ammo or handloads? Remember, the claim is "shot right between the eyes at ranges of 300 yds or greater". Your rifle would consistently allow head shots at 300 yards, but not consistently right between the eyes. You would require about 1/3 MOA to do that, an accuracy almost unheard of in big buck target rifles and certainly not in a standard production M1903.

Is it a good story? You bet. Has it been embellished a bit? Oh, yes.
16 posted on 03/11/2004 10:02:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I use a 168 grain Sierra hpbt Matchking with 56 grains of IMR 4350 and I sure wouldn't want an expert shooting at my forehead with it even at 500 meters. If you have a 30-06 and if you reload (always confirm load info with current reloading manual) this is the most accurate load I've found for any '06' I've owned. You can switch to the Sierra 165 gr hpbt Gameking for a very hard hitting flat shooting round of almost equal accuracy that will literally knock a deer off it's feet.
17 posted on 03/11/2004 10:23:50 AM PST by MCRD
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
OooooRaaah!

Semper Fi

18 posted on 03/11/2004 10:37:28 AM PST by dd5339 (Happiness is a full VM-II and a DEAD AND BURIED AWB!)
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To: scarface367
I lost control in a fit of laughter about a month ago when I first heard I MAF (MEF) was rotating in to replace the 82nd. I was yelling at the terrorist through the TV (and my uncontrollable laugher), “Your problems are almost over now! The Marines are real pussy cats. Just hold on a little longer and you’ll be free of the US Army!” LOL!

The phrase that I remember most is, “We’ve done so much with so little for so long that we can do anything with nothing forever”. Semper Fi!
19 posted on 03/11/2004 10:40:17 AM PST by elfman2
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To: MCRD
I ahve been thinking of getting either another M1 Garand or an M1903A3 or possibly a high SN M1903. I have been leaning toward a Danish return Garand with a VAR barrel.
20 posted on 03/11/2004 10:47:11 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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