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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread 5
CNN ^ | March 12, 2004

Posted on 03/12/2004 8:23:06 PM PST by thecabal

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- This week's deadly train bombings in Spain will not lead to a rise in the U.S. color-coded terror threat alert system, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman said Friday.

"Based on the current intelligence, we have no specific indicators that terrorist groups are considering such an attack in the U.S. in the near term," said department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4515sb; alqaida; homelandsecurity; terrorism; threatmatrix
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To: appalachian_dweller
Somebody posted a link to this article yesterday on thread #4.

http://www.ncmonline.com/content/ncm/2001/oct/1001spain.html
241 posted on 03/13/2004 3:55:32 PM PST by Mrs. Xtrmst (All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. --Edmund Burke)
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To: thecabal
Rather good and I like you too ;)

And under what do I find the Quizno thingee?
242 posted on 03/13/2004 3:56:50 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: TexKat
I was trying to seperate the video from the re-translation of the earlier Al Qaeda tape.

Are they seperate releases, or one in the same?
243 posted on 03/13/2004 3:59:48 PM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: freeperfromnj; judicial meanz
Spain says that have a video tape where Al Queda is taking responsibility per Fox News
244 posted on 03/13/2004 4:02:43 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: thecabal
Bottoms Up! Butt Workouts II

High Hip Thrusts

Lie on your back, arms next to your sides, with your knees bent and feet flat on the floor. Raise your heels off the floor and maintain them that way the entire time. Slowly raise your butt and hips as high as you can and squeeze your butt as hard as possible. It should feel like your trying to press the muscles next to your tailbone together. Do this on every rep. Do two sets of 20.

245 posted on 03/13/2004 4:03:00 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Selene
Now DHS should look into this! Bet they are hiding there!
246 posted on 03/13/2004 4:04:39 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Selene
And by you pinpointing the location this backs it up!
247 posted on 03/13/2004 4:07:18 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: judicial meanz
I was trying to seperate the video from the re-translation of the earlier Al Qaeda tape.

Okay what Al Qaeda tape are you talking about? The video I was speaking of in that particular instance needs no translation. It was a clip of a new video of the Tabliban that Fox News has been showing.

248 posted on 03/13/2004 4:09:50 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All
I was over at the anomalies board and came across this. This is extremely confusing. Paging Sean Lomax (he was posting over there as well.)


FIUC
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Rate Member posted March 13, 2004 13:14


In the era of colonialism Europeans chopped chunks out of Africa. The French took what is now Cameroon; the Belgians claimed the Congo; Portugal took Angola, England got South Africa.
Grabbing a resource-rich colony was normal colonial mestatisis.

The Spanish took the smallest chunk, the Rio Muni lower basin and delta, perfect for a trading post, and the island of Bioko in the Gulf of Guinea.

Today it is called Equatorial Guinea. The capitol, Malabo, is on Bioka's north shore. Now there are about a half-million citizens. Mostly they speak Spanish.

In the mid-90's OIL was discovered in the Gulf of Guinea. Sleepy Malabo was courted by corporate titans 'Exxon Mobile' and 'Chevron Texaco'.

Post-colonial current gov't status: The official Prime Minister is Teodoro Obiang Nguema while there is a 'gov't-in-exile' in SPAIN lead by shadowy Severo Nsa.

So Malabo becomes coup target.. Plane with 64 mercenaries flies out of US, refuels in Barbados, flies onto Harare, Zimbabwe to buy a couple hundred thousands dollars worth of weapons. Oops, bust.

The mercenary's leader is Nick du Toit. Casually he reveals that Americans hired him to overthrow Obiang and send him to exile in Spain while installing Nsa as ruler.

Then, suddenly the Madrid commuter trains explode..Curious timing eh..

Not my words, just a curio.

Also a "translation" of the letter.

"En el nombre de Dios, Clemente y Misericordioso, cuando te castigan, tienes que castigar del mismo modo a quienes te castigaron. Mátalos allí donde los encuentres; expúlsalos como ellos te expulsaron; la sedición es más grave que el asesinato. A los que cometen agresiones contra ti, debes hacerles lo mismo.

Las Brigadas de Abu Hafs al Masri prometieron en su último comunicado referente a las explosiones de Kerbala y Bagdad del 2 de marzo de 2004 que se preparaban para próximas operaciones y hemos cumplido nuestra promesa: el escuadrón de la muerte ha conseguido penetrar en la profundidad de la Cruzada europea, golpeando a uno de
los pilares de los Cruzados y sus aliados: España, con un golpe doloroso. Es parte de un viejo ajuste de cuentas con el Cruzado España, aliado de (Norte) América en su guerra contra el islam.

(the translation goes on)

Anyway, the poster writes that our intelligence services have not found any credible evidence that the terror group actually exists, and refer to it as a "phantom" group. The poster says that this same group claimed responsibility for the blackouts, which were shown NOT to be related to terrorism.

Finally- and this is the most perplexing, the poster indicates that the translation of the letter he (or she) read, makes no mention of an attack on the US being 90% ready.

What are your thoughts?
249 posted on 03/13/2004 4:15:19 PM PST by jerseygirl
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To: judicial meanz
Sounds like you're in either way.
250 posted on 03/13/2004 4:16:25 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: JustPiper
I tell the NYC Dems I know - give Kerry two terms, follow that up with a term for Hillary, and within 10-15 years, Manhattan gets nuked. That shuts them up pretty quickly.
251 posted on 03/13/2004 4:26:10 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TexKat; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1097160/posts?page=1

Breaking via FOX - Spain has tape of Al Qaida claiming responsibility.

Fox | 3-13-04 | Fox


Posted on 03/13/2004 7:04:46 PM EST by Crazieman





252 posted on 03/13/2004 4:27:41 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: JustPiper
"Virtude you are too new here to say who is involved in your 'group think'"

What?

All I was saying was agreeing with Arizona Granny about her desire of not wanting to be in that group-think photo, and I commended her. I neither said who should belong (How could I have said that, since I agreed with Arizona Granny?) nor did I mention my group-think. I have no group-think.

And what has being 'new' got to do with it?
253 posted on 03/13/2004 4:32:41 PM PST by virtude
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To: JustPiper
Do you remember the Scorpion messages that were coming through, 'gonna get bit' or something like that?

a Scorpion is a missile and Russia has a ship named Scorpion.

Heard on the radio.
254 posted on 03/13/2004 4:33:42 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Do a google.com search for: blown tires on airplanes also: 1425 blown tires on airplanes)
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To: All
Tape Claims al-Qaida Tied to Spain Blasts

MADRID, Spain - Spain's interior minister said Sunday a videotape has been discovered claiming al-Qaida carried out the Madrid terrorist attacks, but that he could not verify the veracity of the claim.

Interior Minister Angel Acebes said a man identifying himself as the military spokesman of al-Qaida in Europe claimed the group was responsible for the attacks Thursday that killed 200 people and wounded 1,500.

"We declare our responsibility for what happened in Madrid exactly 2 1/2 years after the attacks on New York and Washington," said the man, according to a government translation of the tape, which was recorded in Arabic. "It is a response to your collaboration with the criminals Bush and his allies."

Speaking at a hastily called post-midnight news conference at the interior ministry, Acebes said authorities could not confirm the claim was genuine. He said the videotape was discovered after an Arabic-speaking man called a Madrid TV station and said where it could be found.

255 posted on 03/13/2004 4:34:25 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; All
Unsurprising...Here is crazieman's pic for the story...
256 posted on 03/13/2004 4:35:22 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
Here is a better pic from crazieman:
257 posted on 03/13/2004 4:36:54 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: StillProud2BeFree
"IMHO you are correct. This is spiritual warfare, involving nation states."

Spiritual as well as cultural.

The main thrust is spiritual though as religion gives rise to culture.

258 posted on 03/13/2004 4:39:32 PM PST by virtude
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1097173/posts

Al-Qaeda linked to Spain's deadly train bombings
News 24 ^ | 3/13/04


Posted on 03/13/2004 7:30:33 PM EST by Tumbleweed_Connection


Norwegian defence researchers have come across documents that may link Al-Qaeda to the Madrid train bombings that have claimed nearly 200 lives, Norwegian TV reported this week .

The researchers, who specialise in digging up original Al-Qaeda releases and interviews, told the NRK television channel they discovered a document on an Arabic website last year outlining Al-Qaeda strategies on how to force the US and its allies to leave Iraq, and pointing to Spain as the "weakest link".....

MORE at link

259 posted on 03/13/2004 4:40:45 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: jerseygirl
What are your thoughts?

Another ingredient to the mix.

260 posted on 03/13/2004 4:42:17 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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