[KriegerGeist]

'But I don't understand the reference to civil war."

Me either. I think that France and even England are going to become Islamic states just by them both finding themselves overwhelmed buy a majority Islamic population...then come the arms secretly shipped in and vo-wah-la...the Islamofascists take over and rule and enslave or murder those that will not convert to Islam.

[omniscient]

Exactly. When I look at the combination of demographics and non-existent immigration controls, I don't see how this isn't inevitable. We are living at the tail end of the golden age of civilization, before the return of the barbarian hordes.

[Chu Gary]

"I think that France and even England are going to become Islamic states just by them both finding themselves overwhelmed buy a majority Islamic population...then come the arms secretly shipped in and vo-wah-la...the Islamofascists take over and rule and enslave or murder those that will not convert to Islam."

You left out another country that has no problem allowing entrance by undocumented aliens. To get there, an American merely needs to drive north from Detroit or Seattle.