It's the heart versus the Bible

townhall.com ^ | 3/16/04 | Dennis Prager

[breakem]

and people who only follow part of the Bible should be ashamed. But nice try.

[Robert_Paulson2]

when the people following Jesus were hungry... he did NOT teach them to fish.

he fed five thousand of them and gave no fishing lessons. He did that more than once.

now later when the professional fishermen could not catch any after laboring all night, he told them how to fish... "caste ye on the other side, and ye will find" and the "nets breaked".

I am not sure about your analogy about the heart being wrong, and the bible advocating "teaching to fish" as a test or proof of character... at least not in the Jesus and the fish incidents...

[I got the rope]

What quote?

[I got the rope]

That's why Jesus came breakem, so we wouldn't have to live under the law, it's impossible.

[NutCrackerBoy]

People who only follow part of the Bible should be ashamed.

Is that really what you think? Because if it is not, then you haven't expressed anything at all. If it is, you have a gross misunderstanding of the seriousness with which scholars and people of faith have struggled with all manner of important moral questions.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Animal rights supporters' hearts are deeply moved by the animals they see experimented on, not by the millions of people they do not see who will suffer and die if we stop such experiments.

*chuckle* All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others. Cute furry cuddly animals have more rights than slimy slithery animals with chitinous exoskeletons.

[little jeremiah]

This is the third time in the last day or two that dear old breakem (break what, I wonder?) has posted this little nugget, put together by Liz Smith of the New York Post. He may have posted it more often than that, I happen to have run into it 3X so far.

So let's all throw away our linen and wool clothes.

Anyone who has an interest in ethics and morality knows that moral teachings about sexual behavior are essential and cross cultural lines. Sincere people also know that ancient cultural practices aren't always applicable, and that throwing the baby out with the bath water leads to what we have now:

Professional and university elites trying to normalize child/adult sex. I am sure that many people feel in their hearts that it's right.

[Robert_Paulson2]

and animals with delicious, corn fed, loins and shoulders... are more equal to the task of fitting themselves into my freezer and then my barbeque grill... then the scrawny ugly tasting ones.

their primary purpose in life is to be about 1.125 inches thick, and resting about six or seven minutes on each side....

pass the garlic please.
and an ice cold... adult beverage.

[cartoonistx]

More to the point, she quotes the old testament (with the exception of a misinterpeted passage from Mark's gospel) laws which were fulfilled by Christ's coming.

Why are liberals always so obsessed with sex and sexual matters? Could this be the reason they hate God so? Do they fear being called sexually sinful? If so, why?

[breakem]

If you don't want to keep marriage true to Biblical values just say so and drop all the smoke.

[little jeremiah]

? and ?

[qam1]

With the decline of Judeo-Christian religions, the heart, shaped by what the eye sees (hence the power of television), has become the source of people's moral decisions. This is a potentially fatal problem for our civilization. As beautiful as the heart might be, it is neither intellectually nor morally profound.

Give it up Dennis, You don't need Christianity to be moral and I would recommend you actually read the Bible before writing such a self righteous piece of tripe.

My Heart tells me Pedophillia, Genocide, Slavery and Human Sacrifice are bad things, Yet they are not only condoned in the Bible but in many cases encouraged by God (See The Book of Numbers Chapter 31 it covers them all.)

Abortion, I have no idea where they get this notion that the Bible is against Abortion, From what I've seen it seems to be all for it.

Hosea

9:14

Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

9:15

All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

9:16

Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

Hosea

13:16

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

And of course how to be happy according to the Bible

Psalms

137:9

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

[breakem]

I don't know why liberals are obsessed with sex. But many here use the old testament to excoriate homosexuals. So I merely suggest they be consistent. Simple and to the point.

[Robert_Paulson2]

I think he is saying that "he who is guilty of breaking one law is guilty of breaking all of them." So, if you strive to be under ANY of the law, the rest of the law, that you claim to be keeping, will rise up and condemn YOU in the end.

[VaBthang4]

'It's the heart versus the Bible'

I'll take the Bible.

[NutCrackerBoy]

Many here use the old testament to excoriate homosexuals. So I merely suggest they be consistent.

OK you've explained yourself. But you smeared this thread with crap from a different argument instead of responding thoughtfully to what was written.

[I got the rope]

Then leave the Bible out and use logic. What is the purpose of having both male and female human beings. Why do they have sex organs? Using your vast powers of observation...what is the "form and function" of the male and female in our ecology?

[cartoonistx]

I agree that the use of O.T. Hebraic code should not be the basis for condemnation of sexual sins today. After all, we should not be advocating the stoning of sinners (God's decree to the Jews) if Christ has redeemed in fact. But the unnatural and sinful state of homosexuality should not be celebrated as normal or encouraged by the granting of civil marriage either.

[I got the rope]

No. He is saying that Christians should follow the law and condemn homosexuals to death. BUT, since they were not condemned (according to him) in the New Testament, then we should accept this form of behavior.

[Salman]

The heart or the Bible. No room for the mind in there someplace?