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To: familyop
The RSV is MUCH more accurate than the KJV, since it did not go through a series of translations,

Greek -> Latin -> Middle English.

In modern Engligh, That same verse reads:


1 Corinthians, Chapter 6:
[9]
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
[10] nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.


Notice that unrighteous, immoral, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers are all lumped together with "sexual perverts".

And, exactly what a "sexual pervert" is, is not defined.

And, remember:

John.8
[7] And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her."
49 posted on 03/16/2004 12:38:19 AM PST by RonHolzwarth
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To: RonHolzwarth
"The RSV is MUCH more accurate than the KJV..."

No, it's not. Here's the truth about the RSV.

The Revised Standard Version - 1952
http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/index1/kjv/mouth3.htm#rsv

It's packed with lies and distributed by apostates.
52 posted on 03/16/2004 12:59:21 AM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: RonHolzwarth; familyop
(in RSV)

1 Corinthians, Chapter 6:
[9]
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
[10] nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

In the KJV it reads:

9 ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

The key words to this discussion are "abusers of themselves with mankind"

(sorry for the sketchiness as my on-line strongs is down at the moment and I'm recreating this from memory)

AotwM comes from the Greek word Arsenkoites which itself is derived from Arrhen meaning male and koites which has one of four different meanings.

so we have Male and

1. bed. A bed has no gender so this meaning doesn't make sense in context.

2. Marriage bed. Agauin there is no such thing as a male marriage bed so it fails the context test.

3. cohabitation. In biblical days it was common for a man to remain in his parents house until married. He lived in the same room with his brothers that he did from the time of his weaning. It was common for related males to cohabitate and there was nothing wrong with it. So why would two brothers living together not make it into the kingdom? fails the context test again.

4. Sexual relations. Sexual relations between males are savagely condemned throughout scripture. This behavior is an abomination where the participants are to be killed before they can infect others with their sin. Makes perfect sense that they would be excluded from the kingdom as God has already condemned this behavior

So of the four possible meanings of Arsenkoites only "those who practice male sexual relations" fits the context test. King James Version translates this as "Abusers of themselves with mankind"

So it passes both local context, that is, it makes sense in the verse where found, and general context, in that it is in agreement with the rest of the scriptures.

While RSV mistranslates this very specific word to be "sexual perverts", KJV translates it to be the very specific (and accurate) "abusers of themselves with mankind" But the Word doesn't stop there. Check out vs 11:

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

God shows us right here that Same-sex Attraction Disorder is curable and people are not doomed to be 'once gay always gay'

102 posted on 03/16/2004 2:41:43 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: RonHolzwarth
How about the NASB? It's generally recognized as the most literal translation, although that strictness sometimes hampers the flow of the text.

I Cor. 6:9-11

Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.
131 posted on 03/17/2004 5:01:53 AM PST by ahayes
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