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The Mythical Moderate Muslim
Arutz Sheva ^ | 3.16.04

Posted on 03/16/2004 9:08:09 PM PST by ambrose

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1 posted on 03/16/2004 9:08:09 PM PST by ambrose
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To: mhking
wow, doesn't this line of thinking sound familiar?

I wonder if the author has read my rough draft?

:)
2 posted on 03/16/2004 9:15:45 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: SJackson
for your use
3 posted on 03/16/2004 9:16:19 PM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: ambrose
"Daddy?"

"Yes, son?"

"What's a moderate Muslim?"

"One who's run out of ammo, son."
4 posted on 03/16/2004 9:17:43 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hm? No, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: ambrose
There ARE moderate Muslims. They are the ones who just don't give a good god damn about their silly religion. These folks are soon to be stamped out of existence. Islam is rising and we will not stop it untill we treat it like the nazism of the second world war.
6 posted on 03/16/2004 9:28:46 PM PST by mercy
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To: peter_alabama_nfl
its too general to dismiss all Muslims as extremists

The day I see Muslims chasing terrorists and terrorist sympathizers out of their Mosques will be the day I believe that. At present, it sure seems like those who aren't actively attacking us are certainly coddling those who do.

7 posted on 03/16/2004 9:31:46 PM PST by Prime Choice (Hm? No, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: ambrose
Even if a full 9 out of 10 Muslims are moderates (which seems like a high #), that would leave a full 130 million Muslim fanatics in the world.

One hundred and thirty freakin' million.

8 posted on 03/16/2004 9:31:54 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ambrose
i like the general idea of the article, but one thing struck my mind:

> "What I do know however is that no religion except Islam
>pursues the idea of physical extermination of those who
>believe differently.."

what about the Spanish Inquisition?



NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is
surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our
two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless
efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and
ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to
the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons....
Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear,
surprise.... I'll come in again....







9 posted on 03/16/2004 9:35:32 PM PST by vp_cal
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To: peter_alabama_nfl
"Islam is a false religion but its too general to dismiss all Muslims as extremists."

There are extremists all over the place. How about Jimmy Jones and Charles Manson. They just didn't have as many follwers but the mentality was the same. If you don't belive the same as me I'll kill you. I don't believe all who call themselves Muslim are kill crazy. But it seems a large portion are.

Fanitics of any stripe are dangerous.

10 posted on 03/16/2004 9:43:13 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: ambrose
"The official, politically correct point of view says that Islam is just another monotheistic religion, not that different from Judaism or Christianity. If that is true, then moderate Muslims must exist, just like moderate members of other faiths. However, moderate members of other faiths do not require sacrificial mollification - that's basically how we tell moderates from extremists. Therefore, either moderate Muslims are mythical creatures, or we need substantially different criteria to identify them."

Makes no sense.
A religion that's monotheistic must have moderates? Who made that rule?
Sacrificial mollification?
She draws conclusions from these??
It's laughable.

11 posted on 03/16/2004 9:47:21 PM PST by nuconvert (CAUTION: I'm an acquaintance of someone labelled "an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies")
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To: blackbart.223
Don't kid yourselves or swallow propaganda. Just this morning one cleric was berating Moslems in non-theocratic countries because they weren't hating other religions enough, per Mohammed's commands. He then proclaimed that moderates will be damned to hellfire if they don't exterminate infidels when the opportunity arises.

Religion of peace? Who's worried about Penticostal suicide bombers or rabbis weilding box-cutters?


12 posted on 03/16/2004 10:02:51 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: blackbart.223
How about Jimmy Jones and Charles Manson. .......Fanatics of any stripe are dangerous.

No doubt about it, but we're talking percentages here. Manson, Jones, and their followers added up to just a few people. Radical Muslims - violent Muslims - number in the tens of millions, and they're utterly committed to the destruction of Western Civilization ......anything non-Muslim, in fact. I read a year or so ago that something like 22 of the 23 armed conflicts in the world involve Islamics or Islamic nations. Coincidence? I think not.

13 posted on 03/16/2004 10:16:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: NewRomeTacitus
"Religion of peace? Who's worried about Penticostal suicide bombers or rabbis weilding box-cutters?"

You misunderstand me. Go back and read my post! The world isn't short of fanitics. Muslims not withstanding.

14 posted on 03/16/2004 10:16:53 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: Mr. Mojo
"No doubt about it, but we're talking percentages here."

I belive I made that point but it didn't seem to come accross from reason.

15 posted on 03/16/2004 10:27:06 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: ambrose
bttt
16 posted on 03/16/2004 11:54:01 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: vp_cal
Give him....the COMFY CHAIR!
17 posted on 03/17/2004 12:00:02 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee
I had a freeper the other night light into me about there being "good" muslims, you know, "moderate" islamics...

pal, I think its pure bullcrap.
the radical muslim is the one putting the nail bomb on the little kid... the moderate muslim is the one holding the remote control, when the kid gets on the bus.

Moderate islam is not a myth. It's a lie.
All religions are NOT created equal.
Islam is the death cult scourge of the planet.
WE are stupid to allow our leaders to say publicly over and over "islam is peace." We know its a lie... and THEY know its a lie too. islam by all evidence, appears to be not peace, but murder.
18 posted on 03/17/2004 12:10:18 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me
19 posted on 03/17/2004 5:52:56 AM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I would say that the difference between a moderate Muslim and an extremist is that an extremist says "I am going to kill you", then tries to kill you.

A moderate Muslim says, "I am your friend", then tries to kill you, or if he can afford it, pays an extremist to kill you.

20 posted on 03/17/2004 6:30:59 AM PST by dinasour
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