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Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges
CNSNEWS.com ^
| 3/18/04
| Marc Morano
Posted on 03/18/2004 2:58:03 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Why didn't [former President Bill] Clinton say he [had sex with] Monica Lewinsky? It took him until he had to be confronted with the hard evidence before he said he did," Nicosia said.I don't believe it got hard until it dried
To: KQQL
LOL! That is the best one yet!
To: finnigan2
It takes time for a huge ground swell against Kerry to amount, which needs to be there before the convention to get rid of Kerry. She would need to start now and keep adding on, until he is so broken that there is a need for her.
If this is the case then this is just the opening shot.
To: There's millions of'em
This indeed smells of a pre-emptive move by an acknowledged Kerry supporter(s) to sanitize Kerry through ostensibly "exposing" that Kerry has not told the whole story - but then coming up with a "whole story" that makes Kerry look as though he was strongly going against the radicalism of Hubbard. A set-up. They fear that other sources will reveal later contact by Kerry with Hubbard. This is intended to neutralize that possibility and other radical actions/statements by Kerry.
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posted on
03/18/2004 9:44:39 AM PST
by
mtntop3
(Those who must know before they believe will never come to full knowledge.)
To: There's millions of'em
This indeed smells of a pre-emptive move by an acknowledged Kerry supporter(s) to sanitize Kerry through ostensibly "exposing" that Kerry has not told the whole story - but then coming up with a "whole story" that makes Kerry look as though he was strongly going against the radicalism of Hubbard. A set-up. They fear that other sources will reveal later contact by Kerry with Hubbard. This is intended to neutralize that possibility and other radical actions/statements by Kerry.
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posted on
03/18/2004 9:45:14 AM PST
by
mtntop3
(Those who must know before they believe will never come to full knowledge.)
To: Peach
How one single veteran of any war could vote for Kerry is a mystery. There are always exceptions. But I don't think there will be very many.
A lot of Vietnam veterans were very angry back in the days of Lyndon Johnson, because they rightly thought that their country had put them in harm's way without allowing them to fight the enemy as he needed to be fought. That and the negative reception they got when they came home seems to have radicalized a fair number of veterans at the time.
There is, of course, a huge distinction between cursing your leaders because they are corrupt and inept and turning against your country. But in the heat of the moment some may have gone over the edge.
I'm sure a lot of simmering anger remains among Vietnam vets, not against their country but against the way they were treated. Plus there are still no doubt a few draftees who were elite leftists to begin with--such as John Kerry. But I think these people make up a very small percentage of veterans in general.
And there may be a few more who just don't yet understand what kind of guy Kerry is, but are angered by what he calls lying Republican attacks on his patriotism. With the news media covering for him, the true story is slow to come out.
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posted on
03/18/2004 9:46:17 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Lady Heron
Yes, I agree that this FBI file based story is just the opening shot from a well camouflaged Hitlery meant only to wound and worry Kerry. If necessary, the coup de grace will come when she leaks his Vietnam records that show just how minor his battle wounds were and just who it was who recommended him for all those medals in just a three month period. At the rate he seems to be self destructing, she may not find it necessary. (It is reported elsewhere on the web that Kerry has just sold one of his Italian mansions to George Clooney for over 7 million. Meanwhile, every terrorist and dictator thug in the world seem to be lining up to endorse his candidacy. That's ALL he needs at this point!)
To: kattracks
It is very important for Freepers, and everyone else, to remember that there a people on the left, and people on the right, who are honest and thoughtful people... it sounds like this guy is one of those people...
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:18:24 AM PST
by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: kattracks
A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Then why is this guy still a Kerry supporter?!!!!!!!!
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:21:17 AM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
To: kattracks
Will CNS post a link to the FBI document? If they do, then methinks Kerry is cooked. Proved to be a liar and to have been there to discuss the killing of US Senators.
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:22:33 AM PST
by
bootyist-monk
(5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Thunderbirds are go!)
To: kattracks
Nicosia also disputed Kerry's denial that he was in attendance when VVAW members met in Kansas City in November 1971 to discuss the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators still committed to the Vietnam War. Kerry was at the meeting, Nicosia insisted, pointing to FBI files and the minutes from the VVAW meeting, which he has obtained. "The minutes of the meeting -- November 12th through the15th -- it's got John Kerry there, it's got John Kerry resigning there on the third day," Nicosia said.
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:22:48 AM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
To: tallhappy
"[Nicosia] is a biographer. He writes big long footnoted books. This is why he has the goods on Kerry's lies. He is being ignored compared to Brinkley."
Nicosia is a definite lefty. His pet cause is the freeing of Mumia. His only other bio that I am aware of is of Jack Kerouac.
But it certainly deserves major props for coming forward now with the truth about Kerry on this point.
To be fair, even Brinkley is saying that Kerry should answer the questions about this story and especially his whethere he was in attendance at the KC meeting.
These guys, Nicosia and Brinkley, have to realize that protecting their credibility is more important than protecting Kerry.
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:34:29 AM PST
by
Hon
To: kattracks; Lady Composer
"I think [Kerry] may be worried or the people around him may be worried that his association with VVAW is a very negative thing and they want John to back away from it," he added. No $hit, $herlock!
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:44:15 AM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
To: mtntop3
I wouldn't bet on it... do not underestimate the importance of
right now. alot of folks who are undecided make their tentative choice for president based upon the first inklings they get into a candidates honesty and character.
this coming out right now, IMHO, given the other stuff with the foreign leaders, is devastating for Kerry. it is NOT a "smoking gun" that would be more effective in October, because, quite simply, the news media would bury it.
by coming out now, it will slowly roast Kerry -- think of it as a well thrown dart that will nag Kerry into November, not a mighty spear.
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posted on
03/18/2004 10:46:39 AM PST
by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: mtntop3
"This indeed smells of a pre-emptive move by an acknowledged Kerry supporter(s) to sanitize Kerry through ostensibly "exposing" that Kerry has not told the whole story - but then coming up with a "whole story" that makes Kerry look as though he was strongly going against the radicalism of Hubbard. A set-up. They fear that other sources will reveal later contact by Kerry with Hubbard. This is intended to neutralize that possibility and other radical actions/statements by Kerry."
It's no such thing. I found this plot described in Stacewicz's book "Winter Soldiers" and Nicosia's book "Home To War." The former was published in 1997 the latter in 2001.
I first posted this information more than a month ago here:
Kerry's Group The VVAW Discussed Assassinating Seven Pro-War Senators In December 1971
Posted on 02/18/2004 6:54:31 PM EST by Hon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1080806/posts And more than a week ago here:
Was Kerry Involved In Plans To Murder 7 US Senators In 1971?
Posted on 03/10/2004 10:29:58 PM EST by Hon
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1080806/posts I've also posted several stories about Kerry and Al Hubbard.
I only point it out because it is a little infuriating to hear how this is all the handiwork of Hillary, or Moveon or even the GOP. It is not. It is simply a citizen coming across information and trying to put it out as soon as I find it. There is no plot.
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posted on
03/18/2004 11:00:35 AM PST
by
Hon
To: There's millions of'em
They are attempting to set Kerry up as THE hero who exposed the frauds within VVAW and thwarted the suversive plans of those extreme radicals within the VVAW. That's what bothers me about this also. Nicosia is a self-described Kerry supporter. His version of events actually makes Kerry look good - the honest idealist Kerry bravely confronting phony vet/Black Panther Hubbard, then resigning with honor when his organization turns extremist.
It's easy for the media to spin this story in a pro-Kerry direction, and they will.
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posted on
03/18/2004 11:18:57 AM PST
by
Argus
(If you favor surrender to terrorism, vote Democrat.)
To: international american
Hit me with the bus again.
CG
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posted on
03/18/2004 11:45:20 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(I'm voting for John Kerry by casting my vote against him. He's much too busy.)
To: Conspiracy Guy
Just a VW bus.....no injuries:)
To: finnigan2
The author/historian Kerry supporter had the files he obtained YEARS ago when he wrote his book YEARS AGO.
It was not Hillary.
Sheesh.
To: JulieRNR21
Let me guess. That same paper was plenty satisfied with running rumor and innuendo regarding George Bush's Air National Guard service as a news story, right?
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