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Sons of Yale: How Blue and Red Emerged From Old Blue
NY Times (Week in Review) ^ | March 21, 2004 | JOHN TIERNEY

Posted on 03/21/2004 3:20:33 AM PST by Pharmboy

THEIR youthful resumés sound remarkably similar: two young men with prominent pedigrees who prepped in New England, enrolled at the same college and joined the same secret society. As Jay Leno noted, the choices in the presidential election range all the way from a rich, white guy from Yale to a rich, white guy from Yale.

But in college there was a wide gulf between George W. Bush and John Kerry. As debates about civil rights and the Vietnam War roiled the campus, they went their separate ways. Nobody in those days talked about a division between red and blue America, but the cultural and political differences were starting to appear.True, Mr. Bush and Mr. Kerry both belonged to Skull and Bones their senior years, but they mostly traveled in separate circles. Mr. Bush, class of '68, was the president of DKE, a fraternity popular with jocks; Mr. Kerry, two years older, was in the Fence Club, the fraternity of choice for old-money families from New England.

Mr. Bush was the unpretentious Texan with a knack for making personal connections, but little overt interest in the politics of the 1960's. He focused on intramural sports. He soured on the Northeastern establishment his freshman year, when Yale's famously activist chaplain, William Sloane Coffin, brusquely informed him that his father had lost to "a better man" in the Senate race in Texas against Ralph Yarborough.


Reuters
At Yale, George W. Bush joined a
regular-guy fraternity.

Mr. Kerry fit right in with the Northeastern elite on and off campus. There was an assortment of future leaders at Yale in the 1960's - Joseph Lieberman, Howard Dean, George Pataki - but no one with the presidential air of Mr. Kerry. "There was never any question in my mind that John would be running for president," recalled one his roommates, Harvey Bundy, whose uncles were helping direct the war in Vietnam. "He was a natural leader. Rollie Osterweis, who coached the debaters, always said that Bill Buckley and John Kerry were the best speakers he'd ever worked with."


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John Kerry, here with Hubert Humphrey, joined a fraternity coveted by old-money families.

Besides leading the debate club, Mr. Kerry was establishing a political career, or what passed for it, at Yale. Because there was no student government, the outlet for his ambition was the Yale Political Union, a group divided into political parties that spent their time debating issues, arranging speeches by political celebrities and fighting over who got to be in charge of these less than awesome responsibilities.

Many Yalies, including Mr. Bush, sneered at the machinations of those political wannabes, but not Mr. Kerry. He became the leader of the Liberal Party and was elected president of the Political Union by brokering a creative deal with the leader of the Conservative Party, J. Harvie Wilkinson III, who today is a federal judge on the short list for the Supreme Court. Mr. Wilkinson's party supported Mr. Kerry for president, and the following year, Mr. Wilkinson became president with support from the Liberal Party.

As head of the union, Mr. Kerry regularly dined with visiting speakers and built up a reputation on campus. "The first time I saw John Kerry I was somewhat awed by his stage presence," " said John Townsend, two years younger, who would later become president of the union himself. "He was so poised, although he could seem aloof, too. It was obviously very much on his mind that his initials were J.F.K."

In Mr. Kerry's last performance at Yale, as class speaker on graduation weekend, he raised some doubts about the Vietnam War, but with the sort of careful nuances for which he is now known. At this point, in 1966, the anti-war sentiment on campus was just beginning to build.

"Yale changed completely from '66 to '68," said Lanny Davis, who was chairman of The Yale Daily News in 1966 and would later work in the Clinton White House. "It was a combination of drugs, radicalization because of the Vietnam War and the rise of the counterculture. Yale became politically polarized.''

Students marched against the war, turned in their draft cards and staged a huge demonstration when Lady Bird Johnson spoke to the Political Union. They packed the auditorium for a debate between Mr. Coffin and William F. Buckley Jr. But Mr. Bush avoided the furor his last two years. He was skeptical of Northeastern liberalism but not yet an outspoken conservative.

"I considered him a moderate Republican," Mr. Davis said. "I didn't see much political interest in general, although he had obvious political facility with people. I literally knew no one who had anything bad to say about him. Everyone liked him.''

Michael Keeling, a member of Mr. Bush's fraternity, said Mr. Bush was not as apolitical as believed and would talk about Texas politics all the time. "I wasn't surprised he ran for office,'' he said. "He's always had such a wonderful way of sizing people up quickly and remembering what's important to them."

Just about no one, though, expected Mr. Bush to get to the White House ahead of Mr. Kerry. John O'Leary, who was a year behind Mr. Bush and would later become the ambassador to Chile in the Clinton adminstration, summed up the prevailing view on campus. "You couldn't have been at Yale then and not known who John Kerry was," Mr. O'Leary said. "Like Bill Clinton, who arrived a few years later, he was someone you saw and immediately thought could be president someday. That was not what you thought of George Bush.''

Sure enough, Mr. Kerry reached Washington first, but the Northeastern sophistication that played so well at Yale did not lead quickly to the presidency. The electoral map was shifting south, and the fraternity president from the red state reached the White House first.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; electionpresident; elitist; kerry; mediafairness; regularguy; yale
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A few comments:
1) Tierney is perhaps the ONLY Times reporter who likely votes Republican. His columns in the past (in the metro section) have a conservatism that runs through them. At the least, he is no liberal.
2) In the print edition, the pictures ran next to each other with the Bush shot on the left. The caption was continuous. However, in the electronic edition, they split the photos and LEFT OUT the caption under the Kerry shot ("John Kerry, here with Hubert Humphrey, joined a fraternity coveted by old-money families") , only printing the blurb that is seen here under the Bush photo. I typed in the caption under the Kerry shot copying it from the print edition.
3) At any rate, a bit unusual for the Times to publish--esp. on Sunday.
1 posted on 03/21/2004 3:20:33 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Timesink; thefactor; NYC GOP Chick; Clemenza; BrooklynGOP
*ping*
2 posted on 03/21/2004 3:24:36 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
Interesting read. It is VERY strange how many of these people are Yale grads. And as for WFB vs. JFK as orators, at least Buckley actually has firmly held opinions and tells you what they are, unlike M. Nuance.
3 posted on 03/21/2004 3:41:04 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Pharmboy; The Raven
Thanks for the extra background on the author, and for the thread.

My husband and I, rough contemporaries of Bush and Kerry, college-aged during those War and demonstration years, conservative always, have struggled ever since with the gulf that exists between us and many of our contemporaries.

It seems to be profound and unbridgable.

It is one reason why, other differences put aside, the President will always have our support.

We're on the same side of that gulf.

4 posted on 03/21/2004 4:02:53 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: Pharmboy
Mr. Bush, class of '68, was the president of DKE, a fraternity popular with jocks; Mr. Kerry, two years older, was in the Fence Club, the fraternity of choice for old-money families from New England.

FENCE Club ? Even then he was sitting on it. Amazing.
5 posted on 03/21/2004 4:03:43 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Pharmboy
...he was someone you saw and immediately thought could be president someday. That was not what you thought of George Bush.'

Yalies need to get out more. America is much bigger than their little campus.

6 posted on 03/21/2004 4:36:05 AM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this good Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: Pharmboy
Bill Buckley a good speaker??? I attended a meeting in Tallahassee a few years ago in which Buckley was the featured speaker. Everyone in the audience was straining to make out a word or two here and there. Buckley is, as he himself might say, a writer of lucid and cogent prose. But a public speaker he ain't. He mumbles.
7 posted on 03/21/2004 4:38:55 AM PST by zebra 2
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To: Molly Pitcher
You are most welcome.

As a contemporary of yours--and especially living in the northeast--I have the same problem with many of my friends. I must admit though, my closest friends are conservatives.

But that is why FR is so great--it lets all of us know that there are legions of like-minded individuals across the country. We must all stay strong in the face of socialist/liberal/democrat idiocy.

8 posted on 03/21/2004 4:50:38 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
Kerry belonged to the Young Democrats club and to the Young Republicans club, even then he couldnt make up his mind.
9 posted on 03/21/2004 4:55:31 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Pharmboy
You *buy* the print edition?! Ewww!

Anyway, thanks for the ping -- interesting article. :)

10 posted on 03/21/2004 5:34:14 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Pharmboy
Reality is that John Kerry is a lazy bum who has done little in DC while Senator. I think he's spent most of his time having fun, socializing and chasing women before Teresa.
11 posted on 03/21/2004 5:38:40 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
I must admit that I buy it...but not the 8 lbs. of forest. I get it delivered to my laptop each week as an exact duplicate of the print edition in a pdf-like file.

I travel a fair amount and the weightless electrons in my 'puter holding the (occasional) unbiased articles and features provide some good reads. Also, just as one other FR poster who reports on the Today show with perky Katy, SOMEONE has to watch these guys... ;-)

12 posted on 03/21/2004 6:11:00 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: dennisw
Reality is that John Kerry is a lazy bum who has done little in DC while Senator. I think he's spent most of his time having fun, socializing and chasing women before Teresa.

You inadvertently left out the adjective "rich" between "chasing" and "women."

13 posted on 03/21/2004 6:14:26 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
Yikes! It's a rough job, but I suppose that someone has to do it...

Anyway, do you remember a long time ago (maybe 15+ years ago) when some guy used to run tiny ads on the very bottom of the front page of the Slimes, bitching about his apt. building being "held hostage" by one cable TV company, which was preventing competitors from coming into the building?

14 posted on 03/21/2004 6:21:13 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Pharmboy
I was doing a job for a lady here in Dallas who had a picture of herself and Dick Cheney. We began to talk politicas and she told me a story.

She attended a small fundraiser for a reading program with her husband in Dallas. When they arrived at the house Barbra Bush answered the door and invited them inside. There were only about thirty people there and one of them happened to be GWB.

As they were all chatting some one told of how they were at a governors meeting with Jeb. There were governors from all the states and Jeb yelled over to Jesse Ventura, " Hey Jesse, I got a brother in Texas who can kick your ass!". The group at the party laughed and W stood up and began to do his best Arnold pose down.

Sounds like a pretty cool regular guy to me.

15 posted on 03/21/2004 6:31:33 AM PST by normy (Today I did absolutely nothing........and it was everything I thought it could be.)
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To: Pharmboy
... the best speakers he'd ever worked with.

Well something has changed then. Kerry makes AlGore look like a polished, relaxed, dynamic orator.

16 posted on 03/21/2004 6:41:42 AM PST by Drango (2 FReep is 2B)
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To: Pharmboy; Travis McGee; archy
Students marched against the war, turned in their draft cards and staged a huge demonstration when Lady Bird Johnson spoke to the Political Union. They packed the auditorium for a debate between Mr. Coffin and William F. Buckley Jr. But Mr. Bush avoided the furor his last two years. He was skeptical of Northeastern liberalism but not yet an outspoken conservative.

I was born in 1970, so I cannot say I know this for a fact, but I have been informed by plenty of folks alive and involved at the time that the wave of campus protest ended rather suddenly (something to do with Nixon curtailing the draft? If so, this puts a whole 'nother spin on late '60's campus "activism"). I am also informed that most "protesters" saw the unrest as nothing more than a chance to get out of classes (especially tests) and to pick up naive swooning little co-eds.

Anyone have any first-hand input on this period?

17 posted on 03/21/2004 7:48:10 AM PST by King Prout (You may disagree with what I have to say... but I will defend to YOUR death MY right to say it.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Yes...I certainly do. It was Liberty Cable, if I'm not mistaken. They stopped those little bottom of the page ads, though.
18 posted on 03/21/2004 7:56:12 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: King Prout
I graduated college in '67, then attended grad school after that. No, the protests--for the most part--were sincere. Plenty of hatred for both the dems and pubbies to go around. Kent State ("Four Dead in Ohio") and the Chicago riots were turning points. Google it.
19 posted on 03/21/2004 7:58:54 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: King Prout
Right you are on the social history. Radical gals were easy pickings in the '60's and '70's.
20 posted on 03/21/2004 8:00:46 AM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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