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This text is actually a internal link from a page of Iraqi history. I hadn't heard this story before. (I know it's from the Arabic Media, don't flame me)

I was doing some research on where Iraq's present boundaries came from when I stumbled on this page.
1 posted on 03/21/2004 7:15:26 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
This is so, like, last Bush Administration.

Hard to know exactly what the truth was around that meeting. However, it set Saddam down a path of chronic misjudgement of what actions American was willing to take against him. You would have thunk that sooner or later the despot would have gotten the picture.

2 posted on 03/21/2004 7:18:13 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: Pan_Yan
This story made the rounds long long ago. It's total BS. Someone please pull this thread.
3 posted on 03/21/2004 7:20:16 AM PST by zook
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To: Pan_Yan
The link to this article is under to words the go ahead in the section titled Saddam Hussein and the invasion of Kuwait. It is about 4/5 of the way down the page.
7 posted on 03/21/2004 7:23:02 AM PST by Pan_Yan (I think the first Mars colony should have 535 members.)
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To: Pan_Yan
These transcripts, or something very like them, were released before, during the first President Bush's presidency.

As you can see if you read them very carefully, the conversation with April Glaspie is ambiguous, although Saddam seems to have taken her words as a permission.

At the time, April Glaspie was blamed for screwing up and giving Saddam a false impression that he had permission to invade Kuwait. What the actual facts were we may never know.

It should also be remembered that there was a war going on then between Iran and Iraq. Iran was considered our worse enemy, Iraq was a fractious ally.

That was one reason why Bush I didn't finish the war with Saddam--balance of power politics. It was thought that if Saddam was crushed and his army destroyed, Iran would move into the power vacuum and take over the Middle East. In fact, that made a good deal of sense. We had no desire to go in there ourselves for the long term, which meant that preserving the balance of power was the only alternative.
8 posted on 03/21/2004 7:23:41 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pan_Yan
I hadn't heard this story before.

Ok no flame.

But I do remember this and it was debunked a long time ago.

You can probably find some threads on it if you search.

9 posted on 03/21/2004 7:23:47 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proudly out of step with the majority since 1973)
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To: Pan_Yan
The inept bunglings of Ambassador Glaspie are well documented.

Saddam was lead down the wrong path twice:
FIRST by Mzzz Glaspie.
SECOND by the French, leading to his ultimate demise.

Of course his own policy of murdering anyone who gave him a realistic interpretation of world events may have been also contributory.

10 posted on 03/21/2004 7:24:43 AM PST by evad (Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed)
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I hadn't heard this story before.

Old slam on W's daddy. Saddam may have understood creatively, but GHWB didn't authorize and was not pleased when Saddam took Kuwait.

11 posted on 03/21/2004 7:25:30 AM PST by VadeRetro
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Even if the dialogue quoted above was verbatim (which I highly doubt), it is still quite a stretch to make the case from those conversations that the United States endorsed the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
12 posted on 03/21/2004 7:25:47 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I'm voting for John Kerry until I vote against him in November)
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To: Pan_Yan
This story was widely reported during and immediately following the first Gulf War. In fact, unless the onset of senior citizenship has caused me recollection dementia, I believe there were some congressional hearings on this FUBAR. In any case, the matter is non sequitur.
13 posted on 03/21/2004 7:28:07 AM PST by middie
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14 posted on 03/21/2004 7:28:10 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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"U.S. Gave Green Light for Iraq to Invade Kuwait"... sure... and don't forget how the Jews use the blood of little Arab children to make matzo for Passover...
16 posted on 03/21/2004 7:29:48 AM PST by thoughtomator (Voting Bush because there is no reasonable alternative)
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And here is what really happened. Amb GLaspie did have a meeting with Saddam 8 days before the invasion. She never said any of the things mentioned in this transcript. She listened and that was about all. The released transcripts were a total fabrication by the Iraqis. She testified to this before the Senate. Terek Aziz later admitted she was telling the truth, that in fact all she did was listen. So, we are still debating Iraqi propoganda as truth.
17 posted on 03/21/2004 7:33:27 AM PST by Casloy
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To: Pan_Yan
"I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices

That says more to me about "read my lips" Bush than anything else in the article.

21 posted on 03/21/2004 7:42:34 AM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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To: Pan_Yan
The fact that April Glaspie is an idiot has been widely known since 1991.

Her stupidity pales in comparison, however , to that of Saddams.

Saddam didn't learn from his mistake back in 1991 either.

He still didn't understand that there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans.

23 posted on 03/21/2004 7:46:01 AM PST by Rome2000 (Foreign leaders for Kerry!!!!!)
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The use of the term "Greenlight" is misleading in that America did not santion or issue invasion orders to Iraqi troops. In addition, it was diplomatically unacceptable for an American official to advise against invasion of Kuwait.

America's dominant reasons for militarily stopping Saddam in 1990 was the protection of Saudi oil fields and the maintenance of stabiilty in the Middle East.

25 posted on 03/21/2004 7:47:50 AM PST by Stagerite
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To: Pan_Yan
Oh geez, not this $h!t again.
29 posted on 03/21/2004 8:10:56 AM PST by Petronski (Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Try to catch up to the rest of us.
34 posted on 03/21/2004 9:12:10 AM PST by Consort
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...a quiet, largely unreported meeting took place between Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie...

Largely unreported? Really? Where? I remember it got quite a bit of run here in the States, back at the time. This particular passage is such a howler that it's hard to take anything else in the article seriously.

47 posted on 03/21/2004 5:31:52 PM PST by RichInOC (Busting Saddam's ass...better late than never.)
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Go here... http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/A/April-Glaspie.htm.
53 posted on 03/22/2004 6:14:15 AM PST by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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